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Obama plays the race card...

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38081

Obama plays the race card

http://www.mediaite.com/online/obama-plays-the-race-card-how-about-the-base-card/

Obama plays the race card

www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/16/obama-playing-the-race-card

Again, a rightwing loon, only read by loons that is supposedly quoting someone that supposedly heard something in a private conversation that no one else heard. If this was in fact said in a private conversation as alleged by the person who knows someone that heard it, how did Obama play the race card? I.e., he did not publicly make the comment. Again, if this is your best evidence, you prove my point. Obama has not played the race card.

You outdid yourself Scotty. This article states:

"The President encouraging his base to come out in support of likely beleaguered party members in an upcoming election. That constituency included “”young people, African-Americans, Latinos, and women who powered our victory in 2008 [to] stand together once again.” What that got translated into courtesy of Drudge was Obama “playing the race card.” Yes."

Because the President tried to rally his base, and his base happens to include minorities, Drudge claims that he was playing the race card. Again, there is no evidence of him playing the race card. He tried to rally his base. Again, do you have anything that OBAMA SAID that is playing the race card (e.g. like Cain claiming that he is being persecuted because of his race)? If this is your best evidence, you prove my point. Obama has not played the race card.

Again, it does not know state what was said. It does quote someone else that said that something said by his campaign at best called into question the oversensitivity of Mr. Obama, at worst they showed him willing to play a divisive race card. I.e., according to the author, they merely may have been Obama being oversensitive. Again, it does not state what he said. The relevant language written by someone else and quoted in the article is::

"The thin catalogue of complaints against the Clinton campaign from the Obama campaign were unfounded, manipulative and self-indulgent. At best they called into question the oversensitivity of Mr Obama, at worst they showed him willing to play a divisive race card that is damaging the entire Democratic Party and tarnishing a great and historic electoral contest for the centre Left. The whole episode has convinced me he isn’t tough enough for the White House."

Again, you avoid quoting what was said. Instead, you quotes someone else characterizing what he said under the worst interpretation may be playing the race card. Again, where did he say: "_________ because I'm black" or anything close to that? You seem to be avoiding citing anything he said. Again, if this is the best you have, you have nothing.

I believe it has been stated and at least implied by Obama's supporters. I did not see Mr. Obama stifle this anymore than he would have done this with statements by his followers that the Tea party was a bunch of racists. Don't you find it interesting how different the OWS was treated compared to the tea party by the mainstream press or how much support they had by unions, local cities, and even a gourmet chef in NY? How much money did different cities pay for clean up and feeding these people? How much did these people cost many others with their port protests? How much did the Tea Party have to pay compared to the OWS to have and organized protest? How much did it cost local governments to clean up after the tea party demonstrations? You on the left are so smug and easy to discredit. The name liberal is very misleading. You are liberal and openminded in my experience as long as everyone is kumbaya!. If someone does not agree you (not you personally) tend to marginalize or discredit. The problem with the right, is that they have not figured out how to play dirty enough. I have heard from commentators, blogs, people of reputation claiming that we on the right are pissed because we have a black president. That is absolute and total bullshit. I would not care if Obama was green Irish troll if he was so great. I tire of this attitude by many. The funny thing is that I do not hate Obama. He seems like a good guy. I just do not like his fiscal policies.

Morgan Freeman goes after the tea party with this ignorant interview. It is embarrassing.

If you want to argue that some Obama supporters have accused people of racism, I would agree. That is very different than Obama playing the race card as people have accused. Do some people play the race card when I believe they are totally off base? Absolutely. However, sometimes motivations are race based.

As far as the OWS being treated different, they are different. In some ways, rightfully. They are different and their tactics were different. Also, one is on the right and the other on the left. That caused Fox to promote the Tea Party and slam the OWS. It caused MSNBC to embrace the OWS and criticize the Tea Party (not nearly as bad as Fox slams the OWS).

The clean up for the OWS is a legitimate complaint in my opinion, but New York pays to clean up after all protests and parades. This is not out of the ordinary there. As far as feeding, I am not aware of the city paying anything to feed them. I thought all of the food was privately donated.

As far as liberals being happy unless someone disagrees with them, that is the same with the left. As far as the right not playing dirty enough, what is claiming that all of the protesters fail to shower, are homeless and unemployed? What is intentionally doctoring videos (i.e. fraud) to make a point by Fox News? That is not playing dirty?

Getting back to the point, contrary to what Scotty posted, Obama has not played the race card. Some supporters have. The example that you gave of Morgan Freeman is a good one. However, that is much different that Obama doing so. Should the wrong statements of supporters be imputed to a candidate?

I agree with your first sentence. Regarding the slander, people on the right have not slandered the OWS? I believe the slandering of the OWS is worse. Your post was objective for the most part. You did not like having to pay to clean up and deal with them. That is a legitimate concern in my opinion. However, claiming that all of them are unemployed, unbathed, violent, homeless people is ridiculous. I hear that on Fox, conservative talk radio, conservative blogs and from Republican politicians all the time.

As far as not denouncing things, Republican candidates not only fail to denounce offensive stuff, they sometimes agree with it and never apologize. For example, the false claims by Huckabee regarding Obama's past (him growing up in Kenya as a Muslim and being anti-West during that upbringing) during the first campaign were unbelievable. No one denounced that. He never even apologized for them. I have not seen any Republicans denounce Trump's continued insistance that Obama was not born here. Candidates are begging for Trump's approval. Why should Obama be held to a much higher standard than Republicans? He is supposed to denounce everything said by supporters, but Republicans do not even have to apologize for what they say or what is said by a Presidential candidate of their party.

This is the second post, in this thread, in which this idiot has confused the words "site" and "cite"......

think about that the next time he tries to tell you how important and how intelligent he is....

The reason why OWS hasn't had much of a following within the Black Community is simple. Its like the Drug Crisis. A lot of the things OWS is complaining about have been long standing grievances within the Black Community. Its not that the Tea Party is in someway more in touch with the African American Community. That concept is laughable.

Basically the attitude is:

a-Well its about time!
b-Welcome to the party.