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TrojanMonkey said...
Full Disclosure: I'm a saints fan
I don't see the big deal here. Football players are hitting as hard as they can anyway. Adding a $1000 to guy making 2mil is hardly big incentive for him to do what he was already there to do. And wasn't there a clause in the bounty that they could not be penalized?
I figure all NFL teams have similar incentives too.
But I think for PC reasons the Saints are going to get hammered by Goodell.
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icky trojan said...
Monkey..lets say there was a 500 thousand dollar bounty on Drew Brees..by ..hmmm...the Altlanta Falcons ..to end his season..( anyway possible...legal or otherwise..after the whistle ..career ending ..doesn't matter)
Do you see anything wrong with that ? Because...that's the next step
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Yes in this case the size of the bounty is key. A thousand dollars is nothing to these guys and the penalty they get from the NFL for an illegal hit far exceeeds their bounty. These defense players are hitting the offensive players as hard as they can anyway. I don't belive the bounty changed they way the players played the game. I think this is very close to the equivelent of the buckyeye stickers on the helmets and the like. Just an atta boy. From what I understand they also didn't target specific players. It was like $250 for a guy stayhing down, $500 for a guy needing assistence off the field adn $1000 for carried off.
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USCMichigander said...
Eh, but it is the message it sends. I'm not about to call Gregg Williams bloodthirsty, and yeah, rewarding 100K for a knockout would be blood thirstiness, so I get you're point, but the fact that he would pay any sum of money for an injury instead of something like a turnover just isn't right
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westcoastfball said...
I keep coming back, over and over, to something I first reported Friday evening, something I saw in a confidential four-page memo sent to the 32 teams (and obtained from one of those teams) late Friday, detailing the abuses.
"At times, players both pledged significant amounts and targeted particular players,'' the memo said. "For example, prior to a Saints playoff game in January 2010, defensive captain Jonathan Vilma offered $10,000 in cash to any player who knocked Favre out of the game.''
Anyone who thinks the Saints defense didn't go over the line to try to do just that wasn't watching the game
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/03/05/offseason/index.html#ixzz1oGZ0lObW
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westcoastfball said...
I would be fine with it if I didn't hear the players concerned about player safety or a group of former players suing the league.
I don't think we are talking about big hits here, we are talking about a financial reward for injuring players with either legal or illegal hits.
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icky trojan said...
What you do ...is in lue of handing out skull and crossbone helmet stickers like in HS ( or buckeye leafs ..or pot leafs ?? at tOSU) you may have some bonus money to dish out for " good plays" instead ...now those "plays" could injure a guy or could be just a good hard hit. Officially they are given out for good plays.
The Saints were stupid to have this policy as it was.
In the NFL there is a unity between all the players and a "unspoken rule" that someone on the opposing team isn't going to try to end your career ..( if the do...their knees are a target ..and sooner or later THEY GET GOT) ...it's a big boy leauge with plenty of risks but no one there wants to have a career ended because of some bullshit ..if you play that way ..
YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED... thats accepted
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TrojanMonkey said...
Full Disclosure: I'm a saints fan
I don't see the big deal here. Football players are hitting as hard as they can anyway. Adding a $1000 to guy making 2mil is hardly big incentive for him to do what he was already there to do. And wasn't there a clause in the bounty that they could not be penalized?
I figure all NFL teams have similar incentives too.
But I think for PC reasons the Saints are going to get hammered by Goodell.
This post was edited by brdcstr1 on 3/5/2012 at 3:05 PM
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