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Kind of like the Fast and Furious documents, the passport history, the Harvard Law Review, the school applications and financing, the grades, the...

I see that conservatives are too embarrassed to stay on topic and feel a strong need to deflect in order to try to defend their candidate. What else is new?

sorry I can't help you here. You have said before that if you were a campaign advisor you would tell your guy not to release anymore than the law requires. It looks to me like you are saying Mitt should not follow your advise and instead release his tax records.

Why do you think tax records are different than resume items and job performance related documentation.

For me I think Romney should release his tax records and i think the Pres should cooperate more with the F&F investigation. At this point his grades don't matter to me unless he has made an issue of his grades (which I cannot recall him doing)

It's not deflection...it's more proof that you and others are ideologue hypocrites who demand something from the opposition that you do not demand from your side. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds and this is another in a long line of proofs of that fact.

a difference without a distinction.....

relevant information.....

if the voters have a right to know things about a candidate's background, it would seem reasonable that would include all things. If there are irregularities, seems that the public should get to know about it...

His drug usage may have predated transcripts....I believe the public has a right to know all about it, the extent of it.....no need for the media to cover it up. Those in the public who do not care are free to disregard teh information....

I will try to make this simple so that even mentailly challenged conservative posters, such as yourself, can understand. Even if everything you wrote is true, it is a deflection. This thread is not about what anyone demands or hypocrisy. It is about the reason Romney does not produce his tax records.

Your facts are as bad as your logic. No one is asking for anything Obama would not produce. He produced his tax records. We are asking for tax records. I.e., we are asking for the same thing that Obama and several Presidents before him produced. The hypocrisy you are writing about is by the Republicans. I do not see anyone asking Romney for his college transcripts, funding for college, or long form birth certificate. In fact, no Republican has asked that of any previous President.

Once before, I asked how any of that would influence your vote. You responded that you did not know. If the stuff is so irrelevant that it would not influence a vote, why do you want to see it? Should a presidential candidate be required to produce a log of when he or she had sex with his or her spouse?

Perhaps what would be better would be a list of items that a presidential candidate is required to submit. Then we would get rid of this nonsense. Until then, relevant documents should be provided and irrelevant ones are not necessary.

Getting back to the subject of the thread, why do you believe Romney won't provide tax returns?

You seem to miss a shit load of posts, but then you swear up and down that we should take your word when you state that another poster has posted something that he denies.

I've said many, many, many times that if candidates came to me for advice on this subject, I would advise them to not release anything that is not legally required.....and/or anything the candidate/campaign does not feel is necessary.

You've actually responded to posts in which I have stated my position. Do you no longer remember what I have said on the subject? Do you believe I have stated something different in this thread?

Well said.

That is a significant leap to a conclusion and something that is not really related...

Romney isn't being subpoenaed and he isn't testifying in front of congress or a courtroom. Romney has complied with the requirements regarding his tax returns. If people are unhappy with the rules for income tax return disclosures, it's possible to change the rules to make them more stringent.

Holder could have asserted his 5th amendment rights, sure, but being as he was testifying in a congressional inquiry, I'd say that the stakes were a little bit higher with regard to the seriousness of the situation. Calls were made for his resignation even before he lied to congress. Him saying nothing wouldn't have made them go away.

There is no reason for Romney to disclose additional information when all it will do is lead to additional campaign fodder. In my opinion, it is better to let the President campaign on him not releasing enough information, and for him to simply say that I have complied with all of the rules required of my campaign with regards to the release of information. As I said previously, the President devoting his campaigning to Romney's tax records from 4 years ago will get real old, real fast.

This....

I admire Romney for refusing to buckle under. He would look weak if he did....

I disagree that this is actually hurting him. It is making him look strong. The people doing all the screaming, all the demanding.....are not worth his trouble. Not one single one of them would vote for him or support him if he released every tax return he ever filed. It could show that he is actually a pauper, having given all his money away (as he apparently did with his inheritance)....and they would not support him. It could show anything, good or bad, and none of these people would support him.

His strategy is similar to that of Obama about the birther stuff.....(I remind people that it was the left who originally started the demanding,....his opponents in the Democrati primaries)....He ignored it and "birthers were soon regarded as petty. That will not happen here, because Romney does not have the sycophanic media that Obama had......but there is nothing to be gained by him knuckling under now.

I thank Wordafa in advance for the ubiquitous downvote that is coming....

It would definitely influence my voting in primary. As far as the Main election goes, it would make me feel a lot better about the guy if I knew as much about him as possible. Even with regards to faith in him while his doing the job. I wish I knew Pres Obama was the academic superstar many claim he is. Knowing he was completely clean in F&F wouldn't get me to vote for him either but it would make me feel better if I knew that. I don't believe he was born in Kenya but I wished he would have caved sooner just so I wouldn't have to hear about it.

I think I would like a list for all candidates for POTUS to submit. My list would apparently be much longer than yours and C's.

I don't know if Romney will provide them or not. I have no idea.