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Morethanafan said...
Thank you. For a normal user, is 16GB easily enough?

normal user is probably enough...but you will never know, when you like to do lots of photo shooting(8MP) and video filming in HD format. The storage may use up pretty fast...
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wake6830 said...
AT&T, Verizon and Sprint will all offer the phone for pre-order on 10/7 and at launch on 10/14.

Correct.
Plus, AT&T has a deal where they cannot be aced out of future iPhone models, unless they choose to.
PS - For anyone that uses their phone in the car a lot, Siri is worth the upgrade from 3GS. However, iPhone 5 will work with LTE...so probably worth the wait until Q2 2012.

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deetj13 said...
Correct.
Plus, AT&T has a deal where they cannot be aced out of future iPhone models, unless they choose to.
PS - For anyone that uses their phone in the car a lot, Siri is worth the upgrade from 3GS. However, iPhone 5 will work with LTE...so probably worth the wait until Q2 2012.

How long is that AT&T deal for? It's got to have an end-date at some point in time, right?
The story linked below seems to think you're looking at Q3 2012 at the earliest for an LTE-capable iPhone.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/05/lte-unlikely-to-arrive-in-iphone-until-at-least-q3-2012/
EDIT - that said, Apple has shown an ability to lock up component supplies and a willingness to spend big money in order to do so, especially if they can get the component somewhat early like they did with the Mac Pro processors a while back. Another reason they keep so much cash on hand.

This post was edited by wake6830 on 10/5/2011 at 2:31 PM
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wake6830 said...
How long is that AT&T deal for? It's got to have an end-date at some point in time, right?
The story linked below seems to think you're looking at Q3 2012 at the earliest for an LTE-capable iPhone.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/05/lte-unlikely-to-arrive-in-iphone-until-at-least-q3-2012/
EDIT - that said, Apple has shown an ability to lock up component supplies and a willingness to spend big money in order to do so, especially if they can get the component somewhat early like they did with the Mac Pro processors a while back. Another reason they keep so much cash on hand.

My understanding of the deal is that it is connected to each subsequent version of the iPhone. As long as AT&T carries it, they have the right to purchase the next generation. This is pretty common language in handset deals.
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wake6830 said...
Depends on who you ask. To diehards who follow rumors about upcoming products, the iPhone 5 refers to a completely new device that was rumored to be in the works, to distinguish it from a slightly upgraded 4S. But to 99% of the world the iPhone 5 was just a logical name for the next iPhone.
Now that the 4S has been released, it seems clear that Apple is taking the tick-tock approach to iPhone releases, a la Intel.
16GB is a lot of space so long as you don't want to dump your whole iTunes library on your phone. I have way more than that on my home library so I keep a curated selection on my phone.

Thank you. That answers my questions.
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Morethanafan said...
Two questions, is the iPhone 4s what people are referring to when they say the iPhone 5? For a normal user that does not download much music, is 16GB more than enough?

Audio books, movies, mapping, apps, photos/videos . . . some of the stuff that sucks up lots of memory.
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chrisrash said...
It is NOT the iPhone 5. The iPhone 5, with its teardrop-shape design and larger screen size, turned out to be just a rumor that people ran with. There may, in fact, be a future iPhone iteration with that design, but it was not part of the announcement yesterday. I had to chuckle a bit at the accessory manufacturers who started making all these cases for a phone that doesn't exist.

I don't get the desire for a teardrop shape . . .
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GauchoGreg said...
I don't get the desire for a teardrop shape . . .

Would be ok in portrait, but awkward in landscape. I don't know if anyone had a real desire for that shape specifically, but a lot of people are looking for a bigger screen and the mock-ups did look nice.
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Siri-ously cool. HA!
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/10/05/iphone-4s-what-can-you-say-to-siri/
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hopefully...the three carriers will battle out its pricing war, which is good for the consumer.

Sprint confirms unlimited data plan for iPhone 4S | Apple - CNET News

The plan gives it an edge over its competitors who no longer offer unlimited plans to new customers. Read this blog post by Roger Cheng on Apple.
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wake6830 said...
They probably won't be able to tell you much. Pre-orders will start at 12:01 AM on 10/7.
If you are interested in the general feel of the phone and have not used one before, definitely go check out the iPhone 4 on display. Physically, the upcoming 4S will be the exact same.

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TMA said...
hopefully...the three carriers will battle out its pricing war, which is good for the consumer.

That would be great. The plans are insanely expensive right now. My Verizon bill, with the basic service, the data plan, and the mobile hot-spot is sky high. And some of that stuff has almost no additional expense/cost to the carrier, so it is almost pure profit. Whenever you have a situation like that, competition is likely on the way to push prices down.
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GauchoGreg said...
That would be great. The plans are insanely expensive right now. My Verizon bill, with the basic service, the data plan, and the mobile hot-spot is sky high. And some of that stuff has almost no additional expense/cost to the carrier, so it is almost pure profit. Whenever you have a situation like that, competition is likely on the way to push prices down.

That's why Apple was/is so great. Jobs always believed in competition in keeping prices down. Apple gave out contracts to each so that no one who gain an advantage over the other. Advantage comes with what you can offer as incentives. I just hope this will continue.
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If you need a phone RIGHT NOW, get the iPhone 4. But honestly, it's worth the wait until the 14th to get an iPhone 4S.
Like I said, you can preorder at 12:01 AM Pacific tomorrow and you'll receive it on the 14th, if not earlier.

This post was edited by wake6830 on 10/6/2011 at 10:30 AM
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If you are new to smart phones, and are not particularly a tech-nut, go with the iPhone. Undoubtedly the most intuitive, easy to use, welcoming to tap into its capabilities phone available. Whenever I pick up a droid, it takes me forever to figure out where anything is, how to do things, etc. It never took me any time to figure my iPhone 4 out.
By the way, even if you have not ever tried a smart phone, it will take you very little time to get sucked into it and find all kinds of things you never thought of that are now second nature as resources for your life. Amazing little machines.
Either get the iPhone 4 now, or wait the few weeks until the iPhone 4s is available. You won't regret it.
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If you are new to smart phones, and are not particularly a tech-nut, go with the iPhone. Undoubtedly the most intuitive, easy to use, welcoming to tap into its capabilities phone available. Whenever I pick up a droid, it takes me forever to figure out where anything is, how to do things, etc. It never took me any time to figure my iPhone 4 out.
By the way, even if you have not ever tried a smart phone, it will take you very little time to get sucked into it and find all kinds of things you never thought of that are now second nature as resources for your life. Amazing little machines.
Either get the iPhone 4 now, or wait the few weeks until the iPhone 4s is available. You won't regret it.

After further consideration, I will wait for iPhone5.
Talked to a buddy at Verizon and it appears that iPhone5 will also have the capability to be used as a mobile WiFi hotspot, supporting up to 4 computers. That is a HUGE upgrade that I am willing to wait for.
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wake6830 said...
If you need a phone RIGHT NOW, get the iPhone 4. But honestly, it's worth the wait until the 14th to get an iPhone 4S.
Like I said, you can preorder at 12:01 AM Pacific tomorrow and you'll receive it on the 14th, if not earlier.

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After further consideration, I will wait for iPhone5.
Talked to a buddy at Verizon and it appears that iPhone5 will also have the capability to be used as a mobile WiFi hotspot, supporting up to 4 computers. That is a HUGE upgrade that I am willing to wait for.

You can do that now with the 4 and 4S.
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You can do that now with the 4 and 4S.

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Yes, so long as your phone has a 3G signal. It's a great way to browse the web via your laptop or a wifi-only iPad when there is no open wi-fi available in the area.
You do have to sign up for a data plan that allows wifi tethering, so make sure you ask your provider about it when you sign up. Verizon, AT&T and sprint will all offer it but each approaches it differently in terms of plans/billing.
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Yes, so long as your phone has a 3G signal. It's a great way to browse the web via your laptop or a wifi-only iPad when there is no open wi-fi available in the area.
You do have to sign up for a data plan that allows wifi tethering, so make sure you ask your provider about it when you sign up. Verizon, AT&T and sprint will all offer it but each approaches it differently in terms of plans/billing.

Comparison of wireless plans from AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. The Sprint plan looks pretty good, but their coverage where I would be is questionable.

iPhone 4S Voice and Data Plans: AT&T vs. Sprint vs. Verizon | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

The iPhone 4S will be available on three different carriers. Which one has the best deal for you?
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GauchoGreg said...
If you are new to smart phones, and are not particularly a tech-nut, go with the iPhone. Undoubtedly the most intuitive, easy to use, welcoming to tap into its capabilities phone available. Whenever I pick up a droid, it takes me forever to figure out where anything is, how to do things, etc. It never took me any time to figure my iPhone 4 out.
By the way, even if you have not ever tried a smart phone, it will take you very little time to get sucked into it and find all kinds of things you never thought of that are now second nature as resources for your life. Amazing little machines.
Either get the iPhone 4 now, or wait the few weeks until the iPhone 4s is available. You won't regret it.

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Yes, so long as your phone has a 3G signal. It's a great way to browse the web via your laptop or a wifi-only iPad when there is no open wi-fi available in the area.
You do have to sign up for a data plan that allows wifi tethering, so make sure you ask your provider about it when you sign up. Verizon, AT&T and sprint will all offer it but each approaches it differently in terms of plans/billing.

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wake6830 said...
Yes, so long as your phone has a 3G signal. It's a great way to browse the web via your laptop or a wifi-only iPad when there is no open wi-fi available in the area.
You do have to sign up for a data plan that allows wifi tethering, so make sure you ask your provider about it when you sign up. Verizon, AT&T and sprint will all offer it but each approaches it differently in terms of plans/billing.

AT&T charge $25/2GB for tethering...hope Apple allow such application to convert your 3G signal into a Wi-Fi HotSpot.
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After further consideration, I will wait for iPhone5.
Talked to a buddy at Verizon and it appears that iPhone5 will also have the capability to be used as a mobile WiFi hotspot, supporting up to 4 computers. That is a HUGE upgrade that I am willing to wait for.

I use my iPhone 4 as a mobile hotspot. Don't know how many computers it works for, but I watched a Netflix streaming movie on my laptop at my mother-in-laws house last weekend doing so. If you get a phone call, I believe it cuts out during the call, but otherwise, it works great. Verizon charges an extra $20/month for that service, but you can add/drop that service on demand.
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