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  • cstory80 said...

    Cool.

    Normal wasted non answer.

    ARE YOU OK WITH ONE GROUP PLACING A BOUNTY ON SOMEONE? Is that an OK action in ANY circumstance? And if the group placing the bounty was white, what would your honest reaction be. I don't expect an honest answer though, so you're safe.

    Low5Point ●

  • Low5Point said...

    Seriously? You condone these actions? You are just as sick and twisted as the other than. Anyone who thinks placing a bounty is art or is "OK" is just a sign of truly evil composition of ethics and morality.

    No, I don't take you seriously.

    We are talking about a 17 year old youth,who at least on the suface, was stalked and murdered, and the on;y thing you have said about it is you are worried about some Professional Ethnic Fringe Idiots "WORDS".

    Fuck you

    BlemBlam3 ●

  • cstory80 said...

    Close enough. This is not a new thing from Lowpoint. He's been like this for quite some time.

    He has a very strong negative bias towards black folks.

    You don't know me. You don't know where live. You don't know who my friends and FAMILY are. You are wrong.

    You simply have shown a racists tendency to defend the evil actions of people if they are black. Period. That is racists. It's sad to see really. You refuse to call out the actions like these as immoral and corrupt and have defended them by your silence and marginlized evil actions. Congrats.

    Low5Point ●

  • BlemBlam3 said...

    No, I don't take you seriously.

    We are talking about a 17 year old youth,who at least on the suface, was stalked and murdered, and the on;y thing you have said about it is you are worried about some Professional Ethnic Fringe Idiots "WORDS".

    Fuck you

    Fuck you... try googling the leaders own words on the radio two days ago.

    But it's OK for one fringe group to act this way but not another. That is sick.

    Low5Point ●

  • Low5Point said...

    Normal wasted non answer.

    ARE YOU OK WITH ONE GROUP PLACING A BOUNTY ON SOMEONE? Is that an OK action in ANY circumstance? And if the group placing the bounty was white, what would your honest reaction be. I don't expect an honest answer though, so you're safe.

    Well if its the Hell's Angels or 32 Trey Crips whomever you might have a point.

    But if its the Little Sisters of the Poor put out a bounty, let me put it to you this way...I wouldn't be quaking in my boots.

    These guys are morons. Stop worrying about them. And eventually....they will go away.

    Its like all that shit about Farrakhan that used to be thrown about. Nobody in the black community gave a rats ass what he actually thought. A lot of white reporters in the media did. But basically other than making a bunch of outrageous statements....he is essentially a nonentity.

    I remembered when he appeared here in Richmond and the Civic Auditorium. Basically other than the local bay area contingents of his group nobody showed up and nobody cared. The Richmond Police didn't even extend security to the damn thing. And that was at the height of his fame.

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  • D A Stankovich said...

    Well if its the Hell's Angels or 32 Trey Crips whomever you might have a point.

    But if its the Little Sisters of the Poor put out a bounty, let me put it to you this way...I wouldn't be quaking in my boots.

    These guys are morons. Stop worrying about them. And eventually....they will go away.

    Its like all that shit about Farrakhan that used to be thrown about. Nobody in the black community gave a rats ass what he actually thought. A lot of white reporters in the media did. But basically other than making a bunch of outrageous statements....he is essentially a nonentity.

    I remembered when he appeared here in Richmond and the Civic Auditorium. Basically other than the local bay area contingents of his group nobody showed up and nobody cared. The Richmond Police didn't even extend security to the damn thing. And that was at the height of his fame.

    I have a cousin that is a Farrakhan follower. Every time I read anything from or talk to him, I just shake my head and roll my eyes.

    cstory80 ●

  • cstory80 said...

    I have a cousin that is a Farrakhan follower. Every time I read anything from or talk to him, I just shake my head and roll my eyes.

    You usually do..Although they make damn good Bean Pies.

    But the guy really is a joke. He has always been a joke and he will always be a joke. He is the bugaboo of white journalists who essentially use him to mau mau people into thinking he is coming for them.

    I actually had forgotten about him... then this thread brings him back. He used to appear on Meet The Press with Tim Russert and everybody I knew would sit there with quizzical looks trying to figure out:
    a-Why is he there?
    b-Why is he there?

    Its kinda when I stopped having a lot of respect for him. Then he had the show about the supposed use of Ebonics in the Oakland Schools.

    (Never mind the absurd picture of some guy who looks like those hambones on The Big Bang Theory trying to talk like thugs...)

    He misstated what was happening. There was a stupid plan to have the teachers talk in ebonics to help the students learn.

    He stated it as they were going to teach the students ebonics.

    I wanted go to his funeral and scream "HEY TIM! THEY ALREADY KNOW HOW TO TALK LIKE THAT!"

    But then I wouldn't do that...Even though I am mean!

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  • Low5Point said...

    Fuck you... try googling the leaders own words on the radio two days ago.

    But it's OK for one fringe group to act this way but not another. That is sick.

    No, Fuck You LOL

    I don't care about these people. They are not a threat to me, you, OR George Zimmerman/

    When they actually commit a crime, get back to me.

    Until then, with all due respect, Fuck You

    This post was edited by BlemBlam3 on 4/11/2012 at 8:00 PM

    BlemBlam3 ●

  • wake6830 said...

    Typically when you are afraid for life and limb, you don't pursue the person you are afraid of. So there's that.

    But is that really relevant? I don't think the question is whether he was reasonably afraid for life and limb when he was following Martin. I think the question is whether he was reasonably afraid when he shot him. And how can you say what is "reasonable" in this circumstance?

    I'm glad a jury is going to answer the question though.

    philatrojan

  • Low5Point said...

    So...if a handful of "marginal white guys" posted a placard and went on radio calling for the death of someone, you'd be cool with that? That's what we do with people when they call for someone's execution with a reward? That's what we do when their local leader goes on the publically owned airwaves and calls for his death and saying it's "time for blood in the streets" to defend their race?

    I don't care if it's 5, 500 or 5,000 people in that group...that type action needs to be EQUALLY investigated. If not, then they may resort to voter intimidation outside of polling venues...

    In the Trayvon case we were talking about Zimmerman/Trayvon, you then brought up the Trayvon smears (forgive me if this wasn't you. I remember Cato and phear doing it and I seem to remember you doing the same) which are irrelevant, and when that failed you began discussing Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the New Black Panthers.

    Yesterday, in a discussion about the media's handling of intra-racial crime, you began talking about how bullshit hate crimes were.

    Today, in a conversation about Zimmerman being in custody, weeks after endless discussion in which you maintained that you were simply "waiting and seeing" about Zimmerman, you decide to devote but one word to the man and go off on a tangent about the New Black Panthers.

    I know conversations here aren't linear but geesh, there's a pattern here. And it's ugly.

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  • philatrojan said...

    But is that really relevant? I don't think the question is whether he was reasonably afraid for life and limb when he was following Martin. I think the question is whether he was reasonably afraid when he shot him. And how can you say what is "reasonable" in this circumstance?

    I'm glad a jury is going to answer the question though.

    That occurred to me as well. Unless the prosecution has evidence we don't, doesn't 2nd degree murder instead of manslaughter seem a bit ambitious?

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  • USCMichigander said...

    That occurred to me as well. Unless the prosecution has evidence we don't, doesn't 2nd degree murder instead of manslaughter seem a bit ambitious?

    Aim high, settle for middle.

    They are charging him with 2nd degree murder, which carries a life term, but if they get a manslaughter plea, or a jury comes back with manslaughter and he gets 20 with no parole, I don't see how anyone can say justice wasn't served.

    I am sure 20 years of washing Tyrone's dirty drawers will suffice.

    I am willing to bet that the Prosecitors are PRAYING for a plea bargain

    This post was edited by BlemBlam3 on 4/11/2012 at 8:51 PM

    BlemBlam3 ●

  • USCMichigander said...

    In the Trayvon case we were talking about Zimmerman/Trayvon, you then brought up the Trayvon smears (forgive me if this wasn't you. I remember Cato and phear doing it and I seem to remember you doing the same) which are irrelevant, and when that failed you began discussing Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the New Black Panthers.

    Yesterday, in a discussion about the media's handling of intra-racial crime, you began talking about how bullshit hate crimes were.

    Today, in a conversation about Zimmerman being in custody, weeks after endless discussion in which you maintained that you were simply "waiting and seeing" about Zimmerman, you decide to devote but one word to the man and go off on a tangent about the New Black Panthers.

    I know conversations here aren't linear but geesh, there's a pattern here. And it's ugly.

    Yup

    BlemBlam3 ●

  • USCMichigander said...

    In the Trayvon case we were talking about Zimmerman/Trayvon, you then brought up the Trayvon smears (forgive me if this wasn't you. I remember Cato and phear doing it and I seem to remember you doing the same) which are irrelevant, and when that failed you began discussing Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the New Black Panthers.

    Yesterday, in a discussion about the media's handling of intra-racial crime, you began talking about how bullshit hate crimes were.

    Today, in a conversation about Zimmerman being in custody, weeks after endless discussion in which you maintained that you were simply "waiting and seeing" about Zimmerman, you decide to devote but one word to the man and go off on a tangent about the New Black Panthers.

    I know conversations here aren't linear but geesh, there's a pattern here. And it's ugly.

    Truth.

    cstory80 ●

  • Has there been any word on how soon a trial might get started?

    cstory80 ●

  • wake6830 said...

    Typically when you are afraid for life and limb, you don't pursue the person you are afraid of. So there's that.

    did he continue to follow or did he stop when told he didn't need to do that and was then approached my TM? i haven't heard anything either way but i coulda missed itshrug

    ca4usc ●

  • BlemBlam3 said...

    No, Fuck You LOL

    I don't care about these people. They are not a threat to me, you, OR George Zimmerman/

    When they actually commit a crime, get back to me.

    Until then, with all due respect, Fuck You

    Here is the Justice Department’s official definition of "crime" related to threat:

    The violence of intolerance and bigotry, intended to hurt and intimidate someone because of their race, ethnicity, national origin, religious, sexual orientation, or disability. The purveyors of hate use explosives, arson, weapons, vandalism, physical violence, and verbal (or written) threats of violence to instill fear in their victims, leaving them vulnerable to more attacks and feeling alienated, helpless, suspicious and fearful.

    (Please note the final line - looks like there has been a crime comitted)...so FUCK YOU! (with all due respect).

    We know the written threat...here are the verbal ones from the NBPP leader in that area, Michelle Williams:

    "Let me tell you, the things that's about to happen, to these honkeys, these crackers, these pigs, these pink people, these fucking people. It has been long overdue. My prize right now this evening ... is gonna be the bounty, the arrest, dead or alive, for George Zimmerman. You feel me?"

    This post was edited by Low5Point on 4/11/2012 at 11:29 PM

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  • Low5Point said...

    Here is the Justice Department’s official definition of "crime" related to threat:

    The violence of intolerance and bigotry, intended to hurt and intimidate someone because of their race, ethnicity, national origin, religious, sexual orientation, or disability. The purveyors of hate use explosives, arson, weapons, vandalism, physical violence, and verbal (or written) threats of violence to instill fear in their victims, leaving them vulnerable to more attacks and feeling alienated, helpless, suspicious and fearful.

    (Please note the final line - looks like there has been a crime comitted)...so FUCK YOU! (with all due respect).

    We know the written threat...here are the verbal ones from the NBPP leader in that area, Michelle Williams:

    "Let me tell you, the things that's about to happen, to these honkeys, these crackers, these pigs, these pink people, these fucking people. It has been long overdue. My prize right now this evening ... is gonna be the bounty, the arrest, dead or alive, for George Zimmerman. You feel me?"

    Of course they said that.

    But they are buffoons. The Real Black Panthers had some balls. If they wanted that guy, they'd gone after him.

    These fools to put it politely aint gonna do shit!

    The threat is idle. The makers are idiots. Quit giving them abilities and powers they do not have!

    Oh and they dress badly...real badly....

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  • If the courts investigate Zimmerman and do find him guilty, without question he should get whatever punishment the law provides. I wonder with all of the press mania how easy will it be for him to get a fair trial. It seems that the press has pretty much found him guilty. Just saying. It shall be one of the most interesting trials in long time. My prediction is that no matter what happens nobody wins.

    Troybill ●

  • Troybill said...

    If the courts investigate Zimmerman and do find him guilty, without question he should get whatever punishment the law provides. I wonder with all of the press mania how easy will it be for him to get a fair trial. It seems that the press has pretty much found him guilty. Just saying. It shall be one of the most interesting trials in long time. My prediction is that no matter what happens nobody wins.

    Ain't that the truth. Whether innocent or guilty, at the end of this, two lives will have been needlessly destroyed. Pretty sad.

    scsuperfan15203

  • Troybill said...

    If the courts investigate Zimmerman and do find him guilty, without question he should get whatever punishment the law provides. I wonder with all of the press mania how easy will it be for him to get a fair trial. It seems that the press has pretty much found him guilty. Just saying. It shall be one of the most interesting trials in long time. My prediction is that no matter what happens nobody wins.

    You know what? I bet this ends in a Manslaughter conviction. Which I suspect is what the Special Prosecutor is aiming for. Either he gets found guilty of manslaughter or pleads it down.

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  • D A Stankovich said...

    Of course they said that.

    But they are buffoons. The Real Black Panthers had some balls. If they wanted that guy, they'd gone after him.

    These fools to put it politely aint gonna do shit!

    The threat is idle. The makers are idiots. Quit giving them abilities and powers they do not have!

    Oh and they dress badly...real badly....

    I tried to explain something like this to another poster about 2+ years ago.

    My position then was identical to my position now. These guys are a bunch of idiots that are trying to scare people; however, they are such a joke that they aren't worth the amount of respect that we would be giving them if we allowed them to actually scare us.

    cstory80 ●

  • scsuperfan* said...

    Ain't that the truth. Whether innocent or guilty, at the end of this, two lives will have been needlessly destroyed. Pretty sad.

    If Zimmerman did what I believe he did, I see nothing sad about his life being destroyed.

    cstory80 ●

  • cstory80 said...

    If Zimmerman did what I believe he did, I see nothing sad about his life being destroyed.

    Not really being up on all of this, I don't know what he did or didn't do, so I won't comment on that.

    From what I do know, I just think it's sad how it's all gone down. There seems to have been missteps throughout the whole process with much colateral damage and much unnecessary politicization. Today was a good day in that the justice system has started to work, we'll see what happens from here on out.

    scsuperfan15203

  • cstory80 said...

    I tried to explain something like this to another poster about 2+ years ago.

    My position then was identical to my position now. These guys are a bunch of idiots that are trying to scare people; however, they are such a joke that they aren't worth the amount of respect that we would be giving them if we allowed them to actually scare us.

    A group of empty hats.

    unfashionably empty hats is what they are...

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