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brdcstr1 said...
Avery Bradley was chosen with the 19th pick in the first round. Even if the Lakers didn't trade their first round draft choice, he wouldn't have been available when they picked.
I'm still looking to see who the Lakers passed on that was available when they would have chosen any particular year they traded their first round pick away.
The first-round choice they traded to New Jersey when they dumped Sasha was used to pick up JuJuan Johnson, who was immediately shipped off to Boston to warm their bench.
Just about every first round choice they have traded since 2007 have resulted in a roster improvement for the Lakers.
Memphis used their first-round draft choices gotten from the Lakers to pick up in 2008 (Donté Greene) and 2010 (Greivis Vasquez) in exchange for Pau and a second round draft choice in 2010 (Devin Ebanks).
Who got the better of that deal?
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USCTraveler80 said...
What about in 2009 and 2011 when the Lakers traded the picks? The Lakers could have gotten besides DeJuan Blair, Danny Green, and Chase Budinger. In 2011 the Lakers could have gotten MarShon Brooks since New Jersey who had the Lakers pick got from Boston for JaJuan Johnson. The Lakers never values their first round picks and that hurt them. The Lakers never develop players and that is bad,
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brdcstr1 said...
A better question to ask in terms of who the Lakers have drafted that have made any kind of a difference since Bynum would be to ask who have the Lakers passed on in their draft position that another team scooped up after they passed on them?
Kupchak did draft Mark Gasol with a lower pick, though... And he's turning out to be a pretty good center.
The Spurs have drafted wisely going the Euro route, but other than them, there aren't many teams that pick up quality selections at the end of the first or second rounds.
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Tanked1 said...
That is the entire crux of the problem here. His bloated 29 million a year is crushing the Lakers payroll and killing anything they can do to improve this team.
It's a sad fact as an aging super star continues to draw top dollar it prevents the team from improving the players around him. This is been a real problem for several years now and will only get worse the next two years.
It's a new ball game now in the NBA and the Lakers simply can't do again what they once were able to do. San Antonio seems to be a model for tweaking the system as well as it can be played. Then again, you would need some front office smarts that are simply lacking at LA central.
Personally, blow up the team and start from fresh. Otherwise it's going to be a long long declining quality of Laker ball as the years go by. It's going to take judicious free agent acquisitions as well as getting very lucky in the draft. Both of those lately have been non existent.
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Dstyle said...
They have to be loyal to Kobe, but they shouldn't if they can get someone of Deron Williams capability, along with an extra player that's good from a New Jersey. Then they could do the Rockets Pau Gasol trade for Scola, Martin, and the pg, and they're pretty set.
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Dstyle said...
They have to be loyal to Kobe, but they shouldn't if they can get someone of Deron Williams capability, along with an extra player that's good from a New Jersey. Then they could do the Rockets Pau Gasol trade for Scola, Martin, and the pg, and they're pretty set.
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brdcstr1 said...
I believe you'll be eating your words when he get's with a coach who utilizes his talents.
My god, he avg 18.8, 10.s reb and 3.3 assist just last season in a system that was far better suited to his talents.
That leaves you stuck with either believing that his skills have so badly eroded in less than one year, or the new system he was placed in wasn't a good fit for him.
I'm going with the latter, but time will tell.
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USCTraveler80 said...
Getting Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, and a point guard from the Houston Rockets does not help the Lakers main issues. The Lakers need to get younger and athletic. Luis Scola is 32 and Kevin Martin is 29. Scola does not rebound and Martin is always injured. If the Lakers got Kyle Lowry he shots very bad for a point guard with a field goal percentage of 40% and Goran Dragic is an okay three point shooter.
Deron Williams has issues such as a bad field goal percentage.
Instead of forcing a trade that would give the Lakers some some bad contracts, I would rather the Lakers keep Kobe, Pau, and Bynum and try to get some free agents to sign for the minimum like Steve Nash, Jason Terry,Chauncey Billups, Michael Redd, Reggie Evans, Nate Robinson, Kenyon Martin, and Tracy McGrady. If the Lakers can get two or three of these guys it improves the team. The Lakers need some three point shooting and some of these players can help. Only if the Lakers can get Kenyon Martin and another power forward would I trade Pau Gasol for Luis Scola. Scola cannot rebound and Gasol can rebound. I think Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum get tired since they play alot and the Lakers need to get some back up players to help them. I would keep Matt Barnes and try to trade Steve Blake. Blake has only two years left and some team would take him. I would rather the Lakers keep this same team for two years and then when Kobe and Pau contract finish they will have alot of salary cap room to build the team.
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USCTraveler80 said...
Getting Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, and a point guard from the Houston Rockets does not help the Lakers main issues. The Lakers need to get younger and athletic. Luis Scola is 32 and Kevin Martin is 29. Scola does not rebound and Martin is always injured. If the Lakers got Kyle Lowry he shots very bad for a point guard with a field goal percentage of 40% and Goran Dragic is an okay three point shooter.
Deron Williams has issues such as a bad field goal percentage.
Instead of forcing a trade that would give the Lakers some some bad contracts, I would rather the Lakers keep Kobe, Pau, and Bynum and try to get some free agents to sign for the minimum like Steve Nash, Jason Terry,Chauncey Billups, Michael Redd, Reggie Evans, Nate Robinson, Kenyon Martin, and Tracy McGrady. If the Lakers can get two or three of these guys it improves the team. The Lakers need some three point shooting and some of these players can help. Only if the Lakers can get Kenyon Martin and another power forward would I trade Pau Gasol for Luis Scola. Scola cannot rebound and Gasol can rebound. I think Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum get tired since they play alot and the Lakers need to get some back up players to help them. I would keep Matt Barnes and try to trade Steve Blake. Blake has only two years left and some team would take him. I would rather the Lakers keep this same team for two years and then when Kobe and Pau contract finish they will have alot of salary cap room to build the team.
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Da Great Goon! said...
Funny how things work when the roles r reversed huh?? U say Scola, Martin & either Dragic or Lowry won't help due to their age, injuries & poor shooting yet sending them to NO was a better trade regarding CP??
By the way take those 3 Clippers names off ur list cuz it ain't happening!
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