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Can you be more ambiguous? And, am I obligated to comment on every subject to your satisfaction, whether it captures my attention or not?
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by Keyser_Sze15748 2 years ago
I am not arguing that a lot of people on the right are racist. In fact, I believe the contrary. I believe that politicians on the right TOLERATE and some even promote racism, because they do not want to alienate and even want to court that vote. Non-politicians on the right do what both sides do, religously defend their party even when it is not correct. Non-politicians on the right make excuses for and defend the tolerance of racism. That blind defense of ones party is a problem on both sides, but the racism issue seems to be more of a problem on the right.
I am forced to stand up to your ass hattery and present you with facts.
"My side" is the right, specifically the libertarians. Any more insinuation that I'm part of the left and I may have to throw one of your unsavory quotes into my signature, the unofficial USC FightOn247 wall of shame.
"the mainstream right is by and large bereft of racism and does an excellent job of policing its own"
"At a campaign stop in Sioux City, Iowa on Sunday, Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum singled out blacks as being recipients of assistance through federal benefit programs, telling a mostly-white audience he doesn't want to "make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money."
Don't believe me? Lib media conspiracy? Link included below, with video on that page.
Santorum then went on to win the state and watch his campaign surge to the top of national polls.
You then have Newt Gingrich telling blacks to "demand paychecks not food stamps." Legitimate point? Sure. Phrased wrong? Absolutely
Alongside both of the candidates above standing by as Obama is called a Muslim in questions from their audience, it really doesnt look good. When the man vying for the position to be the leader of the free world says things like "it is not my place to correct her that Obama is not a Muslim" it shows no spine in the face of an ugly, supposed fringe.
As far as the mainstream left goes, no, only you believe they are overflowing with racism. I will say redistribution of wealth is an ugly policy that hurts blacks, but that isn't their intent and calling it racist is wildly partisan.
At a campaign stop in Iowa, Santorum tells crowd he doesn't want to Read more by Lucy Madison on CBS News' Political Hotsheet.
"Dude looks like a friggin rock star" - TrojanWarrior1 on Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
I do wonder how the Trayvon Martin tragedy reflects poorly on the right.
What did Gingrich say that was racially offensive? That Obama shouldn't have dropped the race card into it? Imagine if a white president had said, of a disputed black-versus-white incident, that he supported the white kid because of his skin color?
The timing of these racial (and lately, gender and class) issues is not a coincidence. The left is gearing up for its race/gender/class war against the half of the country that won't vote for it. It's election time. Time of manufacture some hot-button issues to fire up the base and napalm the character of the opponent.
Never forget how vile the Democrat machine is come election time.
I think you are throwing around the term racism far too loosely. Racism is not an issue on the right.
You have agreed with very lopsided articles on the right. Claiming that they did not catch your attention is not a valid excuse.
As far as vague, in another thread today, I wrote a long post with many points (at least five and perhaps more than 10) and your response was "I disagree." Please spare me the ambiguity argument.
I'm really upset, because the young man below could look like my son if I had one.
Baltimore Attack - Tourist Beaten and Stripped Naked By a Mob. The video shows a man being punched in the face in downtown Baltimore. You can hear his head hit the pavement near the entrance to Courthouse East.
Instead of helping, people laugh.
Then, the crowd strips him naked and takes his car keys, watch, money and iPhone.
It happened St. Patrick's Day. Police say the victim was out partying and woke up the next day at his hotel, cut and bruised with no idea why.
"He had every right to leave wherever he was and get back to where he needed to be safely. Their behavior was just criminal," Det. Nicole Monroe of the Baltimore City Police Department said.
"Not only was he relieved of his property after he was assaulted, but there were a lot of other things done to him that are disturbing to look at, and we want to bring these people to justice," Monroe said.
The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen - Dennis Prager
Oh, so now you're the arbiter of what is a valid topic for me to comment on and what isn't. Wow, how marvelously draconian of you.
This post was edited by Keyser_Sze15748 2 years ago
One could say the same about the right and voting rights.
Tous pour un, un pour tous
I never insinuated you're part of the left. I know you consider yourself a libertarian, as do I. I hope when you get to college your reading comprehension improves.
More importantly, I don't see anything racist about the quotes you provided. As a libertarian, you too should be opposed to wealth redistribution. And Gingrich's quote is pure truth - black people ought to stand up the the liberal policies that keep them down and demand policies that provide upward mobility.
It seems to me that you are reading racism into everything you see. Maybe you are a liberal after all.
I consider this a good definition of racism: Prejudice or discrimination directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief.
I consider racism a problem for both sides. I believe that there is less tolerance for it on the left though. When there is a racist remark from someone on the left, I expect people on the left to speak out. When I hear a racist comment on the right, I expect those on the right to defend the comment instead of denouncing it. It is usually indirectly (e.g. [insert famous perons on the left] once said: "[insert racist comment]."
Look at the National Review. It finally did the right thing and fired Derbyshire. Why did it take so long? He admitted that he is a racist in 2003. Why wait for the outrageous article to be published?
First, how am I arbitrating anything? I am pointing out your hypocrisy. Second, do you understand what "draconian" means? You have misused it here.
What hypocrisy? You keep accusing me of things, but you fail continually to point out precisely what I've done that would ever remotely qualify as such. You seem to be long on accusations but extremely short on facts or examples.
Yeah, there's no race problem involved with talking about entitlement reform and telling a roomful of Iowans "(I don't want to) make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money."
I am afraid you may just never get it. Defending something like that is really unthinkable
Let's hope the GOP does get it, though, or else they'll wither away into irrelevancy and I don't think that is a very good thing for this country.
Keyser, this is Morethanafan, Morethanafan, meet Keyser...
There you go with your sweeping generalizations again. It's almost getting to the point where you're addicted to your hackneyed stereotypes that you can no longer help yourself.
O.K. that's three!
You are out!
First Obama's statements related to how the situation personally effected him. Looking at his children Martin would likely look like his child.
The second issue comes about in relationship to the disposability of young black males and their treatment within this culture. As I have often stated that if there is any moment when Obama would forget he was black, you can be Goddamn Sure he will be reminded of it quickly!
Santorum's claim that he used the word "Bla" is bullshit. People know where he was going with this and Gingrich was doing the same thing with his "Food Stamp" President remark. (There were more people on Food stamps under GWB then Obama!)
“If the NAACP invites me, I’ll go to their convention and talk about why the African-American community should demand paychecks and not be satisfied with food stamps.”
Since more whites are on food stamps then blacks and since more people who think like him are on welfare I would suggest he take his narrow ass out and talk to his own constituent base first and tell them to go to work.
The U.S. Census Bureau released two pieces of widely followed data yesterday one on poverty and the other on median income for 2010. The most interesting findings in this release were the state-by-state figures, especially when compared to national averages. A closer look at the statistics shows that a relatively small number of states [...]
See the share of Americans’ income that comes from government benefit programs like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, veterans’ benefits and food stamps.
This post was edited by D A Stankovich 2 years ago
What stereotype is that? I stated a fact. I did not stereotype anyone. I guess that is why you believe I stereotype people. A fact is a stereotype to you. If my statement is not fact, who on the right spoke out against Gingrich's comments?
Stephen Colbert did a beautiful job of dealing with Santorum's Bla problem.
"Since Rick Santorum’s photo finish in Iowa, Republican voters are finally starting to listen to him bring the “true, hot and heavy and strictly missionary,” Stephen Colbert said Monday.
Like this line: Santorum a little more than a week ago said he doesn’t want to make “bla- people’s” lives better by giving them someone else’s money. Hmm, what was that? Santorum is “pretty confident” he didn’t say black. He says he started to say a word and then “blah” came out.
Colbert totally understands. “Sometimes the tongue gets lazy,” he said. “Probably because it’s Meixca … people.” And don’t trust the media, he added, because it’s controlled by the “jewwwwws … people.”
“Now that might seem anti-semitic, but I’m pretty confident I didn’t say Jews,” Colbert said."
I thought the word and its use was pretty straight forward.
You strike me as someone who has an adequate grasp of English vocabulary to deduce my meaning.
If you decide to allow me the latitude to choose to comment on topics that interest me instead of topics which you deem I should be commenting on, I'll rethink my use of the word 'draconian' and it's application to you.
Well maybe you can explain it to me.
If he has to then the problem sir is yours not his!
He provided a snippet of a quote with no context that any libertarian, which is what he purports to be, would agree with. Since every other declaration of racism he has provided has been bogus, one must assume the same for that quote and give Santorum the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully he can fill me in... but he seems so busy accusing everyone of being a racist that he probably won't have time.
This post was edited by Cato 2 years ago
No...Santorum's statement is even if you give him the benefit of the doubt pretty damning. I haven't read the other examples. But yours statements in this thread haven't done much to hurt his credibility.
tell no lies
while the obama group attacks a housewife. great distraction.
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