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An article in the paper, FYI.
"The recent killing of Trayvon Martin needs more investigation. But where's the outrage over the daily scourge of black-on-black crime?...."
You may recall the author from his days at NPR.
Good article. FYI
In The Wall Street Journal, Juan Williams writes that the recent killing of Trayvon Martin needs more investigation, but where's the outrage over the daily scourge of black-on-black crime?
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I found this part of the article most illuminating,
"Almost one half of the nation's murder victims that year were black and a majority of them were between the ages of 17 and 29. Black people accounted for 13% of the total U.S. population in 2005. Yet they were the victims of 49% of all the nation's murders. And 93% of black murder victims were killed by other black people, according to the same report."
It seems to me that black people really need to fear other black people more than any other ethnicity, at least based upon the statistics. Maybe there's something missing in the report detailing reasons why interracial murder of blacks despite it's much lower frequency is much worse than black against black murder.
That doesn't fit the liberal narrative. So it must be false.
Cry Havoc; and let slip the dogs of war!
I still don't understand how this issue/story has blown up so much. Very tragic but I still don't understand
Because the media initially thought Zimmerman was white...then it was too late to stop the snowball effect once they discovered he was not...and then thought they could connect it to Stand Your Ground initiatives, which also played no part.
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Simple.....a guy killed an innocent kid in cold blood and was not arrested for it. If Zimmerman was arrested right away, I doubt this makes the local news after a day or 2. But the fact that Zimmerman has not been arrested yet makes this world news.
Even if Zimmerman was Cambodian, this would still be headline news.
So everyone is pissed because the police facked up?
No it would not...just as the information in the OP points out. That is the whole point of the post.
Well yeah, sorta. That, and the fact that the victim was black and treated so disgustingly after he was killed. (was held in the morgue for 3 days before his parents were contacted).
Yea, thats pretty jacked for the parents. I have to read up on this I guess, I haven't payed any attention to this really so I honestly have no clue whats going on.
how does that not fit? Do you even know a liberal? You certainly don't seem to know what we believe.
The article brings up interesting points, but it has nothing to do with what happened in Florida. People are outraged because an innocent minor, minding his own business, was stalked and gunned down....and his killer remains free. Nothing would change if Trayvon and his killer were white....except naturally the black community would care a lot less.
not only fucked up, but there are questions about how they do their jobs in general. They are pissed at the lack of investigation in the earliest phases of this case. People are also pissed because of the Florida 'stand your ground' law being used to excuse Zimmerman's actions. They are pissed at Zimmerman's pursuit of Trayvon. They are pissed at his actions that led to confronting Trayvon and the perception that there was racial motivation for his actions.
There are a lot of reasons people are pissed.
Yeah, read up on it....it's honestly one of the most intriguing/bizarre incidents I've heard about in a while.
Man I don't know why grown ass people simply can't grasp what you just said.You summed the issue up perfectly.The people who want to make this a race issue are moron's.An innocent youth was murdered in cold blood and the offender is still free.It's just that simple.
there may be race issues, but they certainly take a back seat to the rest of the problems here. That does not make the actual race issues moronic.
I'm sure race did play apart in the whole incident but I don't really care that it did.What I care about is a pussy decided to take the law into his own hand's and murdered a teenager in cold bold.I really don't care if the teen kicked his ass either because he deserved an ass whipping due to how he handled the situation.Even if Martin did beat the break's off this pussy,Zimmerman still had no right in my mind to unload on the kid period.Where i'm from you take an ass whipping like a man.You don't unload on someone for beating your ass when you're the clear agitator.That pussy murdered an innocent kid and is still walking free.That's just disgusting on so many levels.
6 year old girl was shot along with 38...why aren't you discussing that ..they had 38 shot and 10 deaths in a WEEKEND or some shit !!! Where's the outrage about that ? Thats why this event is sad..RIP to young man who was killed ...but I have heard the story he actually assaulted the shooter who was going back to his car and was handing out a beating after coldcocking him..so I don't know..I heard thats why the cops let him go and there was a witness who said the same thing ..
Thats just what I hear but of course there are always 2 sides to the story ...it's just turned into a "political opportunity" and some have gladly( Sharpton..who has wrongly accused many many innocent people countless in the past ..Duke lacross..some guy of rape..who WAS INNOCENT ..ALL OF THEM ) rushed to judgement ...
I would think it's a crime of some sort ...but what ...manslaughter ? IDK ...what are the real facts..the witness said Zimmerman was ASSAULTED and was being brutally beat and ..the screams on the 911 call ...those have been confirmed as Zimmerman...
So IDK ....people -black-white-brown-yellow ..get shot every day ..sucks we live in a violent society. But we do
It's now a media/political circus ...thats what I see.
The girl was outside in the 3100 block of South Springfield Avenue when a pickup truck approached about 3:40 p.m. and two people inside pulled out guns and started shooting. Chicago News, Sports, Weather, Traffic, and the Best of Chicago - CBS 2 TV | WBBM Newsradio 780 | 670 The Score
A 6-year-old girl was killed Saturday afternoon after suffering multiple gunshot wounds in front of her home in the Little Village neighborhood, one of five people shot within an hour in attacks
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Feelings get hurt, best not to have any!
Wrong ...like I said..the 6 year girl...???? The 10 people dead in aWEEKEND ..40 peopel shot in Chicago story??: Wheres that story ..its not bringing this type of discussion..why ???
Because those are black on black crimes...and the media doesn't like to focus on that type of stuff. They want you to think racism is out of control. But you know it's not.
At least 10 people were killed and 40 others wounded in one of the most violent Chicago weekends in recent history.
Well...if that ass beating is going to take your life...where I'm from..you kill the guy. If someone assaults me and I have a gun and he WON'T STOP . That guy will either be in the ER or dead. That may have been just what happened.
C'mon no matter where you are from..you do that !!!
Let's say I'm freaking Bruce Lee..and curb stomp him ..or yank out his eyes? Would that be OK in defense? Would that be OK if Martin allegedly ..walked up on the Zimmerman guy and coldcocked him ( according to a witness) and proceeded to beat on him?
IDK if Martin just socked him up and split..right??? ...but it sounded to me like the witness said he was slamming his head into the pavement..This is all the stuff thats coming to light..AFTER this RUSH to judgement..ya know..
SO THAT WOULD BE TIME TO KILL ANOTHER MAN.
What if it was the other way around and Martin killed Zimmerman in self defense ? Would Shapton still be protesting? Probably not....scratch that ..OF COURSED NOT . ...no matter what it was ":Whiteys" fault ...errr the Latino/White...ya know ?
Racism isn't freaking out of control and this was just an everyday act of violence that some jumped on to to get folks riled up ( election year ) Even the POTUS is talking about it ....it's sad because its a life and this event shouldn't be a political tool ...I'm not even calling it murder ( maybe it is..maybe it isn't) ..because I don't know exactly what happened.
RIP to Martin anyways.
While members of the public hold rallies to demand justice for Trayvon Martin, the 17-year-old African-American teen fatally shot last month by 28-year-old George Zimmerman, new details in the case have emerged that suggest Zimmerman may have fired his gun in self-defense.
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If this is not a race issue, why in the NBP putting up a bounty on Zimmerman's head in this case and not in the other hundreds of cases that are identical?
See Icki's posts above...that's why!
phear, why do you always stoop to painting groups with a broad brush? Why do you always stoop to being rude and insulting? What does it accomplish? You are far more intelligent than Low5Point and Gr8ythunter, but when you write things like this, you don't appear to be.
I like Juan Williams. Good takes ( even though he leans left) ..he present his view reasonably and not like some crazed liberal Juan's rational.
Sorry randy, but I've got to ask. Where is the evidence?
We have a 911 call that says Zimmerman was told not to pursue, and he did. But what does that prove, that he's an idiot sure, but guilty of cold-blooded murder?
We have Zimmerman's word that he was being attacked.
We have injuries to Zimmerman's person that support that version of events.
We have witnesses who support that version of events.
We have a 911 call in which we hear someone calling for help. The Martin family says it's Trayvon's voice. But the police and witnesses say it was Zimmerman. So who knows?
So again I ask, where is the evidence that the police were wrong to release him? Where is the evidence that Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense? Because the police aren't going to lay out charges unless they can prove them. And I'm still waiting for the evidence that proves Zimmerman a liar.
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