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You still had some respect for the guy that has been hanging out in the student section for the last 20 years?
Haha I didn't know that about him. That's weird though. Any idea what he does for a career? I know he goes to all the USC games, and then he's always tweeting about other games he's at, so I've wondered if he ever works. I just followed him because he tweets USC updates, but I'm unfollowing him now.
True, but joking about dead children is not acceptable, IMO.
I have no idea what he does for a living, but I have thought the guy was a tool since I started my freshman year at USC in 1996.
He made a fortune selling Santa hats, I think.
On the old board fantasmavigilante and I went at it hammer and tongs because I opined that it made me uncomfortable to think of a bunch of untrained civilians running around with weapons.
I recognize the Second Amendment, but while we make sure people are at least semi-qualified to operate a motor vehicle precisely because if a vehicle is mishandled, it is a deadly weapon, all you need to get a gun is a driver's license and a clean record.
And I have long held the belief that it shouldn't be a "right" to go to a gun show and walk out as heavily armed as your pocketbook allows. I recognize that the agency check is full of holes, and that it doesn't catch a lot of things, as computerized as we may be. But just the idea that it takes more time to buy a car, and there is more paperwork to fill out troubles me a great deal.
Frankly, I don't buy anyone's argument who is opposed to the checks, and most importantly, the waiting period. A weapon shouldn't be an impulse buy; it's not a cellphone that you can't wait to open the box and start using. It's a tool with one, and only one purpose, to kill. And while I don't view my weapons with any more attachment or fondness that I do my screwdrivers or circular saw, neither do I ever forget what it's there to do.
Could this have been prevented? Because I know that's what the pro-gun crowd is going to latch onto as their defense. "He misused someone else's weapon. There's no way to avoid that."
Well, yes. And no. I have a feeling that when all the dust settles, it will be clear that this was a long time coming, and it may be the case that the mental health facilities failed this guy and his family, making some sort of episode inevitable.
But that shouldn't be used to obscure the fact that it was too easy for him to get his hands on a weapon. As inevitable as it may prove to have been, I don't think we should be making it easy for people like Lanza to perpetrate these horrific acts.
Personally, I don't have a problem waiting a few days to wrap my hand around a weapon, and I would question the motives of anyone who does.
I agree that we should have better background checking. I also believe we should eliminate assault rifles. Why does one need an assault rifle to hunt or protect oneself?
Can't stop crying over this. Unfathomable.
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this isn't part of the civil war i heard talk about earlier this week is it?
i hear about some starting wars in our country and this happens, very said i have yet to get the details.
This post was edited by FanofSC 16 months ago
I just read an article on CNN about a guy in China stabbing a bunch of school children with a knife....on the order of 20.
The weapon of choice isn't really the issue....a sick and deranged person can cause a lot of damage and heartache with perfectly legal items.
There is no way to absolutely prevent one person.
Truly a tragedy
I might need an assault rifle during the next red dawn scenario
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The weapons in this tragedy were just ordinary pistols.
"Assault rifle" is really just a term to make modern, black metal guns sound evil.
A weapon doesn't need to be bolt action to be useful for hunting or recreation.
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this is so sad and very hard to really comprehend. i was a single dad when my daughter was 5, and i don't think i would have made it to the end of the day if she had BEEN a victim. not sure the victim list is finished yet.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by ca4usc 16 months ago
Here is the link....22 kids in China
What makes something an "assault rifle" and what makes these assault rifles any more dangerous than any other firearm, in your opinion?
yes, it happened the day before this attack. Difference is none of the kids died in China.
This post was edited by Rosebowl91 16 months ago
This is an area where we agree.
I don't live under any delusion this will stop all gun issues. I also don't think it would stop this one. I do believe it would lower the number of gun deaths, especially this impulse acts of anger, the domestic violence situations that make up so many of our violent gun acts in America.
I actually enjoy going shooting now and then. I am not anti-gun. But we need to change on this issue.
With the admin that we have making defense such a low priority that could come sooner than you think.
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All depends on the scenario.
As I know you to be one that likes our constitutional rights to be protected. The right to bear arms to protect ourselves falls in that same area of discussion.
Personally, I'm not a big gun guy. The guns I own were given to me and I do not shoot them on a regular basis. However, I do believe that each home should have the ability to defend itself. My personal belief is that my generation could see the big earthquake and corresponding chaos that goes with it. Those that haven't prepared like I have might want to take that preparation from me. In addition, neighbors on both sides of me have pools. Water will be a valuable commodity if we are required to "survive" for 30+ days like they say we might have to in that scenario. Defending our ground could come into play. I would think an assault rifle would be a good item to have at that time.
What do you think we need to change? honest question seeking dialog.
I agree with background checks and waiting periods. But in this case, it was the mother's guns...and...it sounds like the so called assault rifle never made it out of the car. The damage was done with the 2 pistols.
I remember a guy some years ago that intentionally drove down the sidewalk attempting to kill people (and did).
There are many things that can kill. Dropping 500 lbs of concentrate arsenic in a water tower might kill quite a few people too.
I'm not sure that the guns are the culprit in this tragedy and I'm not sure what gun control measures would have done to prevent it.
This is what we need to change:
Last year deaths by gun shot in the US over 10,000.....in Great Britain, 28.....
PS: Crazy guy without weapon=dangerous. Crazy guy with weapon=deadly.
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