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Well then perhaps concentrate on how to limit access to the proximate cause rather than the fact that they all drank tea, played video games or had penises or any other spurious correlation.
“Close tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share,” Reagan vowed.
Wow. Yeah, that does not sounds like much fun at all. Great of you to even try.
I believe that there are laws pertaining to liability for parents, but this is a good point.
Basically what I would like to see is this:
1) All firearms must be purchased through a federally licensed dealer. Even if you want to transfer your firearm to a friend or family member, you should have to do so through a licensed dealer so that the transaction can be recorded and background checks can be made. Failing to go through the proper channels should be a crime.
2) The purchase of all firearms requires a background check and a 10- or 14-day waiting period. No exceptions. The background check should consider not only criminal history but any history of mental illness or impairment.
3) All firearms must be registered to the owner and the registration should be updated on a yearly basis.
4) The purchase, sale and transfer of magazines in excess of 15 rounds is made illegal.
5) There should be severe penalties for anyone who is found to be negligent in the safekeeping of their firearms, especially if one or more of the firearms is put to use in a violent crime.
6) We should figure out some way to track ammunition purchases. I don't care if someone wants to stockpile thousands of rounds, but someone buying a mass quantity all at once should at least be flagged.
7) No rifles shorter than 16" barrel, 26" overall. There's no legitimate reason for having a rifle that can be easily concealed.
Beyond that, I don't see the need for any restrictions besides the obvious - no automatic weapons and no explosive devices like grenades, mortars, etc. I don't care if someone has 20 rifles or 10,000 rounds of ammunition or if their rifles have pistol grips and laser sights or whatever.
I am not aware of liability for parents under federal law. If it only state law, as I suspect it is, that would vary from state to state. For example, I doubt most southern states have such laws.
I generally like your suggestions. I believe you miss one point though. When I, or someone else, tries to limit the amount of guns that may be purchased in a limited time frame, it is not meant to limit the number of guns that person purchases. It is meant to limit the effectiveness of straw purchasers. They tend to purcahse the guns in bulk and hand them over to people that could not otherwise have purchased the guns. Your requirement to register the guns and renew yearly, if done right, can take care of that issue though.
I had not thought about that as a problem, but I think registration and severe-enough penalties for failing to properly record transfers/purchases should cover that issue. There should be penalties for anyone found in possession of a firearm not registered to them, and also penalties for the previous owner who failed to record the sale/transfer of that weapon. Obviously this would not apply if the weapon was stolen, but it should be mandatory to report a stolen weapon within some reasonable time period.
RE: liability for the improper storage of a firearm, this is the law in CA that I was thinking of.
The 2008 California Dangerous Weapons Control Law modified California Penal Code section 12035 defining criminal storage of a firearm as keeping "any loaded firearm within any premises that are under his or her custody or control and he or she knows or reasonably should know that a child is likely to gain access to the firearm." A person may be charged with a crime, if he or she keeps a loaded firearm, and the child takes the firearm to a public place or causes injury.
Sometimes you have to "write off" family members that are bad apples and want to drag everyone down. Not a nice thought but has to happen especially those who are meth or heroin addicts.
I have to agree on the lack of evidence linking Asperger's (sp?) and violence. Those who suffer from Asperger's have difficulty making social connections and can have some obsessive tendencies, but violence (at least towards others) is not usually a manifestation of that condition.
However, those further on the Autistic spectrum do have some proclivities towards violence, but that is normally because they tend to9 be emotionally detached and do not understand social mores.
I am convinced that this young man had far greater issues than his Asperger's.
The problem with that law is that it only covers loaded firearms kept in the house.
If the gun is stored with the clip out and the child (who is familiar with such things from TV/games/movies) loads the gun and goes bananas, the law does not apply. Restrictions on access to weapons AND ammunition need to be in place.
I agree. I wasn't intending to say that this law is perfect, just that there are laws on the books (or at least one, anyway) that make the gun owner liable for improper/negligent storage of the firearm.
I am a HUGE supporter of people's rights to own and use firearms, we just need some rules put in place to address the relative ease with which these mentally unstable people can get the guns that they use to kill their victims.
However, I also think that the issue of psychological health is the bigger problem of the two that needs to be addressed.
He probably did. My plea about helping kids with Asperger's comes from personal experience. The young man I know is not violent.
But what shocks you is how little support there is for such kids. There is an enormous tendency to put them into classes with kids who have learning disabilities and thus their education gets hurt.
This post was edited by D A Stankovich 16 months ago
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this poor gal got it to....sad it doesn't seem Cnn mentioned the link that the guns were from the Fast and Furious........now back to our concern for the non victums of choice.......
only 150 deaths from fast and furious guns.............ok.....those did have a federal registration didn't they and a waiting period....and sold by a federal gun dealer? headed up by holder and obama. Dang we need better gun laws
This post was edited by FanofSC 16 months ago
Very moving story that you tried in earnest to help a family member in crisis. Terrible to read about your civil rights being violated by proxy. Even more terrible to read about that car incident!
Join the fight for YOUR liberty!
California tends to have relatively strict gun laws. I doubt pro gun states (a lot of states in the south) have similar laws. Also, the law does not go far enough.
As usual, you are off topic. As usual, you miss the point. more than that many people die each week from guns in the U.S. Given your ability to reason, please tell me that you do not own a gun.
Trust me, I hear you. My wife is the white sheep of the black sheep family. I've bailed more people out over the last 30 years than Chico's Bail Bonds. I've been caring for their mother for the last 10 years so unfortunately I can't stop them from coming around. I just have to make sure I hide all the valuables. They are all good democrats (and let me know whenever they can) and have been on the government dole since I have known them and off and on MY dole over the years too.
"...an economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough jobs or enough profits" JFK
What have them being democrats have anything to do with anything?
It fits his bias.
They are on the dole. And I said they are good democrats. As it pertains to the topic? Metrobank said sometimes we have to write off. Thus the comment about being on the dole. Just not mine anymore.
Thanks for the down vote! Those are so important.
This post was edited by sec13graphics 16 months ago
So there was no reason to mention they were Democrats? You're just getting pissy because you're annoyed at being called out for being small-minded?
I totally agree. I have a very close friend who has a daughter who is borderline Asperger's/Autistic and they INSISTED on keeping her in a regular class and it has made a HUGE difference.
I met her when she was in pre-school with my son and she would not look anyone in the eye and was really anti-social. Two weeks ago, we had them over and when I open the door, she looked right at me, said "Hi, my name here" and gave me a huge hug...I almost cried I was so happy.
However, her parents have dedicated their lives to mainstreaming their daughter and have really struggled to find support for giving their child a "normal" life and preparing her for the future. They have had to go to New York, Florida and Texas to find the services that they needed -- there is no set of resources that people can readily access for support for Asperger's or other mental illness, other than the ones that marginalize those afflicted even further.
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