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Well, who knows for sure? Given the total media blackout on site and the inconsistency in the official reports from law enforcement spokespeople, nobody has any clue how it went down.
The impression that I got from jumping channels was that several agencies were involved and LAPD was the ringleader but I could be wrong.
Regardless of who started the fire, the tactic is disconcerting.
I agree with your general position. The guy was a piece of shit, but that does not mean that the tactic should have been used. Going back to an earlier post of yours, Iagree that it is amazing that he is being viewed by some as a hero. It goes to show just how hated the LAPD is. They have done their best to abuse people for decades.
Remains still in the process of being IDed.
Imagine the clusterfuck that will happen if it turns out the remains are of the house owners or the house keeping ladies while Dorner remains at large.
Police audio captured by a local news channel from the siege on Christopher Dorner reveals a deliberate plan to burn down the cabin in which Dorner was trapped, with one officer heard to say, "fucking burn this motherfucker."
This audio appears to be from earlier in the siege following the initial shootout between Dorner and cops. Separate police audio reveals a deliberate plan to burn down the cabin in which Dorner was trapped (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X-WoiJhVY8&feature=youtu.be).
Full Story: http://www.infowars.com/lapd-audio-from-dorner-siege-burn-this-motherfucker/
Yep...there was NEVER going to be a trial. No way the LAPD would let it happen.
Something isn't adding up here.
The remnants of the cabin were supposedly too hot for investigators to enter for hours after the blaze died down, yet this morning they find Dorner's ID card amidst the ruins. It seems to me that a fire hot enough to keep humans from entering for hours afterward would also be hot enough to melt if not completely destroy a plastic ID card.
It's not like the LAPD would lie to us
Also didn't they find his wallet and ID in San Diego. I guess he is going around dropping off fireproof wallets.
Like many on this thread, I believe that the LAPD can be shady at times; however, if I was the person calling the shots yesterday, I would have ordered the house to be burned to the ground. I wouldn't risk the lives of those under my command by having them shoot it out with a guy that has explicitly stated that he wants to kill cops.
I hear ya, but in America you can't be the judge, jury and executioner. They had dorner surrounded. Set up a perimeter and stay back. Like I said earlier they weren't 100% it was him in there and even if they were, Did they know for sure he was alone in that cabin?
I understand that being a police officer is a dangerous job, but they signed up to put their lives on the line
They were never gonna catch him alive.
Agreed. He could of came out butt naked and they would of shot him. They made that clear when they shot up those innocent people. Why do you think they ordered the media to pull back and made it a no fly zone? They didn't want evidence.
There are lots of people out there that want to kill cops, unfortunately. Law enforcement can't end every standoff with a dangerous suspect by starting structure fires. I'm all for minimizing the risk to police but you have to do it within the framework of the law.
This post was edited by wake6830 14 months ago
How about nuking him instead? Nothing too extravagant. A tactical nuke will do.
When they asked all the aircraft to leave the area as well as any cameras I knew he wouldn't come out of this alive.
Now some of the police transmissions have made the internet. Apparently, the police set the fire?
I don't think that CD was right. But I didn't think we set fires to get people out anymore.
"...an economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough jobs or enough profits" JFK
I believe it was because he was found in the basement. Often times the basement will escape extensive damage.
This post was edited by cstory80 14 months ago
I am not in favor of law enforcement ending every standoff with a dangerous suspect by starting structure fires.
The LAPD did not do it -- that would be San Bernadino PD -- LAPD was not even there -- take it easy and take the tin foil hat off.
999 out of 1000 times what you have expressed would also be my opinion, but this Dorner situation was so extraordinary that I have no problem with torching the house in which he was hiding.
I think people need to take a step back - It appears that "burners" is Police-talk for a specific type of tear gas that is usually the second option.
They had used the less combustive versions first and moved to the more dangerous version, called burners, because they issue a spark when they ignite and have the danger of starting fires.
People really need to stop with the conspiracy theories.
Yes, they did know it was him. He tried to escape out the back door and her came out firing. The police fired back and forced him back inside. They had a clear look at him and KNEW he was there.
He made his choice once he started the firefight. He was either going toget shot or end up dead in some other way - and he knew it...if you read his manifesto, you would know that.
Actually, LAPD WAS there. There are pictures from the scene and the surrounding areas showing LAPD patrol cars, SWAT teams and bomb squad members, among others.
You are going to have to show me evidence - every photo that I hgave seen from teh scene has been with SBPD/Sheriffs or the Highway Patrol.
I have not seen a single photo from the scene, until AFTER the incident with any LA law enforcement.
I will also tell you that my best friend is a lead detective that was assigned to the case and was one of the first from LA on the scene and she arrived after it was all over.
LAPD had NO OPERATIONAL control over what was going on - NONE.
PS -- you do know that SB has SWAT and Bomb units too, right?
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by deetj13 14 months ago
There are a couple here, for starters. I also saw them live as I was flipping channels yesterday.
Look, I'm not trying to start or join a conspiracy here but let's not pretend like the LAPD has handled the whole thing perfectly so far, and the way the matter was handled yesterday by whoever was in charge was not exactly transparent. When the LAPD shuts down its scanners and officially tries to tell reporters to stop tweeting about the events, the FAA boots all the media helicopters and then the entire cabin suddenly burns down, people are going to be a bit incredulous.
No, I didn't know that because I'm a complete fucking idiot. Do SB's SWAT and Bomb units have the LAPD insignia on the sides too?
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