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Well obviously both issues can and should be tackled simultaneously. And they are interrelated in these issues. I do think, however, that we as a society badly let down the millions of people with mental health issues.
“Close tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share,” Reagan vowed.
If you were to take his manifesto at face value and accept it at 100% truth what exactly are his mental health issues other than an anger problem?
I do not know, and I was half joking. Maybe operation population control? Anybody who wants to push an antigun agenda?
That is my point -- we have the cheap political theatrics of gun control, but the same people are totally ignoring the underlying issue that is really driving this - people who are mentally unstable and are not being treated, or treated poorly.
Just read through the dude's manifesto. He doesn't seem insane at all. He seems incredibly calculating and intelligent. Does anybody think that stuff doesn't go on at the LAPD?
Couldn't you say the same thing about writing from any other crazy person?
If you were to take Mein Kampf and Hitler's speeches at face value and accept it as 100% truth, then what exactly were his mental issues other than wanting to kill all the Jews?
What about Kaczynski's manifesto?
You are absolutely correct. But most of us realize that assuming the premise of Mein Kampf to be true is absolute nonsense, while assuming there is rampant corruption in LAPD is pretty plausible. When I read Dorner's manifesto, a lot of what he wrote is believable/plausible. When you read Mein Kampf, you know Hitler is full of shit.
This post was edited by philatrojan 14 months ago
Exactly, but let's just label him crazy so we don't have to deal with the issues (i.e. Corruption ).
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by USC33Fan 14 months ago
Just because there is corruption in the LAPD, does not mean the guy is not nuts.
One does not address corruption by assassinating one's lawyer's daughter and other police officers.
I've stated multiple times there is no way to justify or condone his behavior, but the issues he speaks of are real.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of his manifesto is true. Even so, his "anger problem" is so severe (declaring war on police AND THEIR FAMILIES) as to be a very serious mental health issue. A person that is mentally healthy does not go on a murdering spree, including family members of other employees of his former employer, because he is wrongly terminated.
They are two different issues. There has been a need to deal with LAPD corruption for a long time. You will not get any argument from me. I had my fill of LAPD dishonesty. He is also crazy. They are not mutually exclusive. There is nothing wrong with labeling him crazy for killing people and at the same time investigating his accusations against the LAPD.
No one is labeling the guy crazy for his manifesto. He could have written it more effectively, but he was a cop, not a writer. He is being labeled crazy for going on a murder spree.
I'm not sure if it is related, but I've been hearing sirens go off like crazy in Harbor City for the last 15 minutes.
Is their racism and corruption in the LAPD? I'm sure there is. I'm sure that's also present to some degree in pretty much every police department throughout the country. There are elements of racism and corruption present in the day-to-day lives of many civilians as well.
If this guy was sane and serious about exposing these problems, he could have assembled some basic evidence and made one phone call to the LA Times and this would have been on the front page the next day. Let's not pretend like everyone in this city is just dying to protect the LAPD.
The problems he describes may well be real but the unfortunate side-effect of his behavior is that they've been recast as excuses and the rantings of a crazy person. He also didn't help matters by using the same space to address the merits of making The Hangover 3 and a bunch of other bullshit.
I don't think his actions have anything to do with a conspiracy or gun control stuff, the guy is a liberal but he just felt mistreated by the LAPD and very likely was,so he just snapped. Yeah mentally ill of course, most people just drink some alcohol, find a new career eventually and just bitch about injustice or being wronged and don't go on a killcrazy rampage and live the best they can. Anyways, I think he's out of the area but suppose he could still be in Big Bear in an unused cabin..or killed himself( seems like he'd rather be shot and shoot more police than kill himself though). It may sound twisted but this whole manhunt and all of this story is damn interesting in a crazy way.
This post was edited by icky trojan 14 months ago
Feelings get hurt, best not to have any!
If I had read it with no knowledge of his actions, I still would have said this guy is batshit crazy.
Don't deliver any newspapers and you'll be perfectly safe.
Interesting side note. The alternate title for Howard Stern's "Private Parts" was "Mein Kampf"!
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I hear you, but when I think crazy, I think of a person who cannot really appreciate the consequences of their actions or the details of their situation. I don't see that with this guy.
I would call him angry, I would call him evil, I would call him a monster...but I would not call him insane.
It sounds like the police believe that Dorner has left the Big Bear area.
As fresh snow continued to fall Friday in Big Bear Lake, authorities said they don't believe that fugitive former LAPD officer Christopher Dorner is still in the resort area.
It's twisted and interesting like the DC Sniper was back a few years ago. Hate to admit I succumb to that fascination as well.
Heard them in Hawthorne at work. I was wonderingif there was any connection. Probably just your run of the mill LA high speed chase we both heard.
It ended up being the pursuit of a stolen car. They caught the alleged thieves near Western and PCH.
Listening to the attorney on the radio for the two women shot in Torrance....30 shots... no warning......CHA FREAKIN CHING!!!!
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