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Your bleeding heart isn't going to help you get laid. Nor is your sympathy.
One of them has a taped confession and the other person doesn't name the perp and would have no reason to make it up. There are probably hundreds of sexual assaults a year. Whether one individual case is proven or not doesn't mean we shouldn't treat the problem seriously.
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Uh huh....when there is an arrest let us know. I mean the evidence is overwhelming.
I think this is a glorified publicity stunt, and she is doing it to launch a career.
It seems so fishy...she stayed with her boyfriend, and this didn't come up until a year later? There has been no legal review, and USC found no issues....there are always two sides to every story. We are hearing one side, loudly.
Every crime leads to an arrest. We know that.
You're making the leap that USC does not care. The authorities have not done anything, why should USC? Are you saying that USC should take the Israeli approach...act first and ask questions later?
One person has recordings, right? A self-admission, right? Help me out here. Why hasn't the police done anything? Why hasn't the DA's office made an inquiry?
I don't think they should do something in the individual cases necessarily but I think more resources on rape awareness and prevention, more resources for the Center for Women and Men, I think the frats and sororities might be asked to do half a day talking about the issues. Remember, last year we had this too...
Once again an idiotic college student has brought shame on his fraternity, his school, and possibly the entire Greek system by doing something that confirms every misogynistic frat guy stereotype. Today we received a copy of a an email purportedly written by a member of USC (how creative). Disgust ensues.
"Once again an idiotic college student..."
The whole issue wrapped up in 6 words. ^^^^
When I was in high school we had the same type of off campus fraternities and sororities and that was in the mid 80's. USC could eliminate all frats & sorots, and you're still going to have guys & gals banging each other like monkeys.
Sure. But the whole idea of an educational institution is to educate...
Here's a plan to put into effect...start at home with the parental units before they get to college.
This post was edited by TrojanWarrior1 11 months ago
I can agree with that
Hi, there, TrojanWarrior1.
I'm the fellow Trojan you seem so intent on demeaning.
Not to sound threatening, but what you probably perceive as school spirit is actually a violation of my rights under Title IX. (Something you may be familiar with -- Title IX is usually applied to support college athletes.) Anyway, I'm supposed to be able to exist within an environment where I don't have to deal with ignorant assumptions bandied about like fact. Where, if I Google articles about my case, comments like yours don't crop up. It only establishes a pattern for when I go to court, to show how thoroughly the school allowed me to be subjected to harassment. Because, yes, what you're doing constitutes harassment, dude. As well as potential libel.
You'd be doing USC (and yourself) a lot of good by researching a topic before making potentially damaging statements on the Internet.
USC did not rule in my adjudication due to lack of evidence or witness corroboration -- they simply did not "prioritize" the investigation. This is all on the blog, which is linked to in pretty much all the articles that have covered this topic in recent weeks. The university's "investigation" took six months, when it should have taken 60 days (by federal decree). As of yet, the school has not offered a single excuse (logical or illogical) as to why things dragged on so long, although it has been suggested to me again and again -- and corroborated by a faculty member -- that the administration wanted to "sweep this under the rug" and let it float around in limbo until my attacker graduated, when they wouldn't have to deal with it one way or the other.
It was only after I started being a squeaky wheel that they took steps to conclude the investigation -- abruptly and just in time to potentially penalize my attacker before graduation. We'll see what they rule next week.
In answer to one of your other (semi-accusatory) rhetorical questions: no arrest was made by LAPD because the detective handling my investigation expressed -- in writing that I have posted to the Internet -- that my recorded confessions were not admissible, due to California's laws against recording people without their knowledge. The detective was in error. California Penal Code makes an exception to secret recordings that prove felonies. The DA's office re-opened the investigation when my lawyers contacted them about the detective's poor judgment call. Unlike on TV, however, these sorts of things take time -- especially when the crime occurred some time ago, and the argument for swift arrest is less persuasive.
To address other really trivializing and incorrect assumptions made by people on this board:
A significant percentage of rape victims do not identify as rape victims. Not immediately, and sometimes not ever. This is well documented, and statistics representing the number of confused victims are actually growing each year, as more women become better aware of just what exactly constitutes a "date rape." For example, many women are not aware that any sort of unwanted vaginal penetration -- even if it is just digital -- is actually rape.
My own situation was complicated by the fact that my attacker confessed from day one that he did "force" sex on me. I chose to forgive him. It was only after multiple incidents of forced intercourse, threats of bodily violence, and months of emotional abuse that I was able to realize that he was not a good person who made a mistake -- he was, indeed, a very damaged person who would go on to damage others if qualified individuals did not prevent him from doing so. I reported my rape while it was safely within the six-year statute of limitations to do so. This statute exists primarily because it does take so any victims to accept the reality of the crime perpetrated against them.
Finally -- this is not a publicity stunt. I write CHILDREN'S BOOKS. I write well-reviewed children's books. Children's books that are popular with middle schoolers and parents' book clubs in conservative areas such as Utah. That is what I love to do, what I want to, what I always wanted to do. Is it good for my career that, should a young reader or protective mother Google my name, the words "rape" and "fuck" and "blow job" show up? Come on.
I realize that everything and anything I say is going to raise issue with people who just don't want to listen. But I wanted to drop by this Trojan forum to maybe mitigate the damage some of you are doing to people you don't know. Because when you throw dirt on me, you throw dirt on the other women who are also filing alongside me, who weren't fortunate enough to get multiple confessions recorded and who must therefore be more wary of defamation complaints.
"Your bleeding heart isn't going to help you get laid. Nor is your sympathy."
I actually know plenty of feminists who would be happy to prove that assertion wrong.
This post was edited by BandAidBabe 11 months ago
Why don't you let your attorneys handle your situation within the legal system instead of playing the drama out on the internet would be my advice to you. There is no libel on my end whatsoever because rhetorical questions are just that, and more specifically, they were not directed at you, instead to someone who I was having a conversation with. Your comparison to title IX is absurd on a message board that is not affiliated with USC.
Good luck with finding peace in your life.
You are the one that brought it to the internet. She probably saw it by googling her name. She merely responded. She did not bring the drama to the internet. She responded to false statements.
As far as libel, you need to understand it better. For there to be defamation (libel or slander), it must be published to a third party. I.e., if you only directed your comments to her, that would not be defamation. Because you published the fact, that is potentially libel. I am not arguing that libel occurred here, but your understanding of it is backwards. You had a better argument when you argued that you made no defamatory statements without the incorrect specificity that you followed it with.
Instead of giving her advice, an apology of some other form of empathy might have been more appropriate, but that is not in your DNA.
Um no...I did not bring her "situation" to the internet.
From the article for this thread:
"Beyond improperly adjudicating cases of sexual violence, the university has also done little to prevent these types of assaults from happening in the future. USC has made no statement to the student body on the prevalence of sexual assault, nor has it developed an action plan to make the student community safer. Earlier this year, USC failed to address or even acknowledge student concerns about incidences of non-consensual sex posted on the USC Hook-ups page. In March, the school suspended the Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity chapter for sexual misconduct for five years—but no particular students were held accountable and no action was taken regarding the questionable conduct of other houses on the Row.
When shots were fired on campus in October of last year, USC launched a comprehensive new security plan, sent multiple letters to both parents and students and began construction of a fence to circulate the entire perimeter of the school. But when a woman reports a rape, the response is to pretend it never happened."
This is the "alleged" disproportionate USC response resulting in the 10 women joining together to air their complaints and I "assume" file this lawsuit.
As to how valid is their lawsuit I do not know.
This post was edited by rkinslow 11 months ago
Isn't tumblr part of the internet?
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Helen of Troy 11 months ago
"It's what a brother would do for another brother"
As well as Neon Tommy?
I think I was being trolled. Of all the comments in this thread, mine were some of the less caustic.
She posted on tumlbr for the whole world to see before the Neon Tommy's article...If that was her it only confirms she has some real issues....her posting here and going after you seems very odd?
The school allowed you to be subjected to harassment ? How exactly did that happen? By allowing you to be accepted to the university ?
We are discussing your case because you have subjected yourself to the entire world.
Do you think USC could have done something to prevent your situation? Like hold voluntary or mandatory seminars on how to say no more forcefully while drunk in a room with a boy while trying to maintain virginity ? Isn't that common sense that a smart woman attending USC should already have? Maybe you should sue your high school and your parents also for not teaching you how to say no more forcefully.
After you first said no, did you then say yes?
If the man is found guilty by the police, I'm sure USC will act
What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome.--Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
While I agree, I do not know the specifics of the case or he other cases. Maybe there was a good reason for the delay in reporting.
In any case, rape is not something that should be ignored and if USC is ignoring reports, then I should be held responsible.
Mind you, It still remains to be proven that the University is, in fact, ignoring reported rapes.
How dare you slander her character like that.
similar thing is happening at Occidental. guy and girl have sex. cops find nothing. silly hysterical school council finds boy guilty and he's expelled. he'll prolly sue the school now.
now numerous ladies come out of the woodwork to blame the school for their issues.
Occidental College students learned about the incident from the local media, not the school.
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