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  • ”LSU's defenses began preparing for Oregon's up-tempo offense last spring with its own "tempo" drill, in which two offensive lineups set up simultaneously, the second lining up to snap as soon as the first's play ended”

    I mean damn, looking at what LSU did for an entire spring/fall camp to prepare for Oregon's offense, you've got to wonder how did Oregon even score.

    Also, SC lost the turnover battle and still got the W.

    LSU Tiger defense makes statement in dismantling of Oregon Ducks - Stewart Mandel - SI.com

    ARLINGTON, Texas -- LSU's equipment truck sat parked in the vast field-level tunnel of Cowboys Stadium on Saturday night. Approaching from behind, one sees only the inscribed words made famous by the Tigers' eccentric coach:

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    What sanctions? Our 75 are better than your 85.

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  • bhiley77 said...

    Really? That game wasn't on the schedule all year long?

    Um, you do know that SC had 10 prior opponents to prepare for, right? Or do you think they just prepared for Oregon's offense the entire time leading up to the game? lol

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  • tuskstider said...

    Haha like what?? What exactly has USC done in the last 6 years? I'll wait.......

    Couple of issues. Your argument contradicts itself. You say you don't care about Oregon and the SEC style D is BS however in your very next sentence you say you have done exactly what an SEC defense has done .....which you insinuate as to meaning handling Oregon's "well balanced" offense. Which in actuality isn't well balanced at all and they run the gimick bullshit offense because they are so small.

    Back to the topic, I am sorry but what was the score or the LSU Oregon game and what happened for USC to beat Oregon.

    Exactly, lsu showed you how to handle the Oregon offense. You lucked out by a field goal.

    And damn you for making me have to defend lswho

    Interesting you choose six years as your cutoff.

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  • Action Figure said...

    Um, you do know that SC had 10 prior opponents to prepare for, right? Or do you think they just prepared for Oregon's offense the entire time leading up to the game? lol

    Um, you do know that coaches use the offseason to prepare for the entire slate of games, right? Here's an article which confirms Kiffin creates the gameplans in the offseason. Or do you think they actually spend three days before each game? lol

    College football - USC experience transforms Lane Kiffin - ESPN

    Lane Kiffin was despised by SEC fans (including Tennessee's) during his 14-month tenure at Rocky Top. But the USC head coach has experienced a transformation in Los Angeles.

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  • JCakus said...

    Well, the transitive property MUST apply, because you are stating how a mediocre-defense Auburn team shut down a Pac-12 offense in Oregon.

    Well, USC is NOT Oregon. USC IS the gold-standard for West Coast football (much like Auburn would be the gold standard for Southern football).

    The Pac and SEC meet so infrequently, that one must either pull comparisons from dissimilar teams (USC v Oregon and Auburn v Alabama) or from previous years (SC v Auburn in 03/04 and Arky in 05/06).

    SC fans here merely point out that SEC fans think West Coast football is soft. But, SC is more than capable of going toe-to-toe with the best in the Nation (South, Midwest, East, Mars...)

    Well said JC. What was it that Auburn said after we played a home and home with them? Something along the lines of, "We'll never schedule USC again."

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  • bhiley77 said...

    Um, you do know that coaches use the offseason to prepare for the entire slate of games, right? Here's an article which confirms Kiffin creates the gameplans in the offseason. Or do you think they actually spend three days before each game? lol

    Cute article, but there's a reason why all of Oregon's losses (with the exception to SC last year) under Chip Kelly have come against teams that have at least a month before the actual game to prepare for that offense.

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  • DF1982 said...

    Well said JC. What was it that Auburn said after we played a home and home with them? Something along the lines of, "We'll never schedule USC again."

    The Arkansas coach said..."they weren't that good when we scheduled them...." as he apologized to the fans.

    About sums up the mentality...schedule only easy wins, but never USC, even in a down period.

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    The Arkansas coach said..."they weren't that good when we scheduled them...." as he apologized to the fans.

    About sums up the mentality...schedule only easy wins, but never USC, even in a down period.

    Much like that coward Mack Brown saying that he would never have schedule Ohio State if it was up to him (I think back in '05 when they had to travel to Columbus).

    Why are schools afraid to schedule big-time games? Or heck, even teams with half a pulse....

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  • DF1982 said...

    Well said JC. What was it that Auburn said after we played a home and home with them? Something along the lines of, "We'll never schedule USC again."

    Kind of like what Foley (Fla) and Moore (Bama) told Garrett in 2003/2004 about a home and home with USC 3-5 years down the road?

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  • Action Figure said...

    Cute article, but there's a reason why all of Oregon's losses (with the exception to SC last year) under Chip Kelly have come against teams that have at least a month before the actual game to prepare for that offense.

    Taking a look at Oregon's record since Chip Kelly took over, doesn't it seem to you that who those teams that beat them are is more important then how long they had to prepare for them? Putting it another way, what do you suppose happens if Cal or Washington State has over a month to prepare for the Ducks?

    bhiley77

  • tuskstider said...

    Actually smart one you CAN go on our board and discuss football. There is this little button that says "for subscribers only" and when you click that it means only people with a subscription to BOL can see that post. Now what does that mean for you??

    Glad you asked, it means that unless you see a green VIP next to a post then anyone can view it.

    But don't let your stupidity get in your way. Keep on truckin'.

    Anyone else with any other brain busters for me this morning?

    Since I can't address this comment on your board, here goes:

    "57 minutes ago via 247Sports Mobile

    I will now be spending the rest of my day on the USC board......check in on the fun.

    And I took someone's argument about the arky game over there as an example only because they cited it first.....it's getting pretty ugly over there if I do say so myself."

    roflmao

    Getting ugly over here? Man, are you a light weight....you're bringing nothing over here we haven't heard ad nauseum since 2003. Do you all share a collective brain, and follow like sheep, with the same old bull shit?

    We're just getting started Bammy Boy, it's been nothing but easy banter so far.....

    This post was edited by usctrojan1 on 6/4/2012 at 11:56 AM

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  • tuskstider said...

    Haha like what?? What exactly has USC done in the last 6 years? I'll wait.......

    Couple of issues. Your argument contradicts itself. You say you don't care about Oregon and the SEC style D is BS however in your very next sentence you say you have done exactly what an SEC defense has done .....which you insinuate as to meaning handling Oregon's "well balanced" offense. Which in actuality isn't well balanced at all and they run the gimick bullshit offense because they are so small.

    Back to the topic, I am sorry but what was the score or the LSU Oregon game and what happened for USC to beat Oregon.

    Exactly, lsu showed you how to handle the Oregon offense. You lucked out by a field goal.

    And damn you for making me have to defend lswho

    You obviously have zero reading comprehension because I didn't say that the SEC style D is bullshit (although most of your conference does have bullshit D), I said your "SEC big boy" defense brainwashing line is bullshit. Maybe what you are trying to say is that LSU and Bama had solid D, if so then I would agree with you, but your brain won't let you process the distinction between two good teams and the rest of the SEC.

    I also was basically saying that USC has stomped "SEC big boy" defenses.

    This post was edited by DF1982 on 6/4/2012 at 12:04 PM

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    Since I can't address this comment on your board, here goes:

    LMAO.....What's the deal with no reciprocal board interaction over there?

    Are they afraid we'll make fun of their grammar, spelling and syntax? (snicker, snicker...)

    What if we promise to keep it football-related with no mental acuity required on their part...will their mods then relent, and let them come out to play?

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  • TrojanWarrior1 said...

    "SEC quality" defense is an urban myth. Their defensive stats look good on paper...until you see the offenses that they go up against. Quality players that are not tested until they step OOC because the "SEC quality" offenses are...average at best.

    I would actually make this arguement in reverse. That the reason your offenses score so many points is because you consistently play lower level defenses. The reality is that these are both theories that can only be proved or disproved on the field. We have won 6 of the last MNC's so I'd say our theory has more credibility than yours. Here is to us meeting in the MNC this year and finding out. I know we would all love for that to happen. Good luck!

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  • Trojan Conquest said...

    LMAO.....What's the deal with no reciprocal board interaction over there?

    Are they afraid we'll make fun of their grammar, spelling and syntax? (snicker, snicker...)

    What if we promise to keep it football-related with no mental acuity required on their part...will their mods then relent, and let them come out to play?

    I've always had respect for Alabama, like most Trojans...because I always felt they were above the "SEC! SEC! SEC!" pervasive attitude in their conference.

    Most of their great history was while playing in a weak conference, but they proved their worth in out of conference games. Bama to me was always ALABAMA, and never the conference they played in..they were better than that.

    My, how times have changed.

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  • I'll be honest USC 55 LSU 3

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  • bhiley77 said...

    Taking a look at Oregon's record since Chip Kelly took over, doesn't it seem to you that who those teams that beat them are is more important then how long they had to prepare for them? Putting it another way, what do you suppose happens if Cal or Washington State has over a month to prepare for the Ducks?

    It's a combination of both who the team is and preparation. With an offense like the one Oregon runs, preparation time is a big deal. Do you think LSU wins the turnover battle (4-1) against Oregon if they had only three days to prepare for that offense? I doubt it.

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  • jayman1974 said...

    I would actually make this arguement in reverse. That the reason your offenses score so many points is because you consistently play lower level defenses. The reality is that these are both theories that can only be proved or disproved on the field. We have won 6 of the last MNC's so I'd say our theory has more credibility than yours. Here is to us meeting in the MNC this year and finding out. I know we would all love for that to happen. Good luck!

    You could make that "arguement" in reverse, however, it would only confirm what we already know about folks from the SEC...they're not too smart and have a difficult time rationalizing things.

    Let me know if the word rationalizing has too many syllables in it for you to sound out.

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  • Action Figure said...

    It's a combination of both who the team is and preparation. With an offense like the one Oregon runs, preparation time is a big deal. Do you think LSU wins the turnover battle (4-1) against Oregon if they had only three days to prepare for that offense? I doubt it.

    I think perhaps having the Thorpe and Bednarik winners in their secondary perhaps contributed to the turnovers more then preparation.

    Oregon lost three fumbles in that game. I think its a stretch to say you spend an offseason preparing to recover fumbles. Right?

    bhiley77

  • Trojan Conquest said...

    The South has been making excuses over getting their asses kicked, since 1861.

    SECond as always...

    Apparently not in CFB. The level of stupidity in this thread is unparalleled. You folks need to stick to pro sports if your knowledge level of CFB is this bad.

    BTW I was pulling for USC to kick allbarn's azz and would do so again. I don't give a rip about the SEC and would not lose any sleep if you beat Lsux in the NC game. That said, its not going to happen anyway. You all will lose a PAC-12 game or two like you do most years and will then be out of it and have yet another year to cry and whine about how the SEC can't play offense and how USC would score 50 on any SEC team.

    I also would love to see an Alabama/USC matchup in the NC game if they both managed to go undefeated. I would like to see the game because it would be a great traditional matchup and a potentially a good game. Your team is very talented and I am not overconfident like you clowns but I would not bet against Alabama and I certainly would not look for USC to score 50. Aint gonna happen.

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  • RTR 65 said...

    Apparently not in CFB. The level of stupidity in this thread is unparalleled. You folks need to stick to pro sports if your knowledge level of CFB is this bad.

    BTW I was pulling for USC to kick allbarn's azz and would do so again. I don't give a rip about the SEC and would not lose any sleep if you beat Lsux in the NC game. That said, its not going to happen anyway. You all will lose a PAC-12 game or two like you do most years and will then be out of it and have yet another year to cry and whine about how the SEC can't play offense and how USC would score 50 on any SEC team.

    I also would love to see an Alabama/USC matchup in the NC game if they both managed to go undefeated. I would like to see the game because it would be a great traditional matchup and a potentially a good game. Your team is very talented and I am not overconfident like you clowns but I would not bet against Alabama and I certainly would not look for USC to score 50. Aint gonna happen.

    The stupidity arrived when you and the rest of the Bama Clan got off the old mare and said, "sheyoot...looky here..."

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  • RTR 65 said...

    Apparently not in CFB. The level of stupidity in this thread is unparalleled. You folks need to stick to pro sports if your knowledge level of CFB is this bad.

    BTW I was pulling for USC to kick allbarn's azz and would do so again. I don't give a rip about the SEC and would not lose any sleep if you beat Lsux in the NC game. That said, its not going to happen anyway. You all will lose a PAC-12 game or two like you do most years and will then be out of it and have yet another year to cry and whine about how the SEC can't play offense and how USC would score 50 on any SEC team.

    I also would love to see an Alabama/USC matchup in the NC game if they both managed to go undefeated. I would like to see the game because it would be a great traditional matchup and a potentially a good game. Your team is very talented and I am not overconfident like you clowns but I would not bet against Alabama and I certainly would not look for USC to score 50. Aint gonna happen.

    As opposed to the Florida team that lost to Ole' Miss at home?

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  • This USC team, is nothing like Pete USC teams! These LSU and Bama teams are nothing like those Auburn and Arky teams back then either! I do think that USC can beat LSU cause LSU don't have any offense and they are not really fundamental sound on D! They do have a good D but gamble a lot! I do think the game could go either way and I think Lane is a better coach than Les!

    Against Bama would still be a good game. But I do think Bama would win! I just don't see USC having a dominate D to stop Bama! While everyone talk about how good our D is, they don't give enough credit to our O! No it's not great, but very balance and effective! I don't think that USC can sit and go deep against us or LSU because of our front.

    I do think all of these games would be fun to watch! But a half a hundred? Maybe big points on LSU! We have seen them get frustrated at times, but I've never seen Bama lose big since Saban been here!

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  • rkinslow said...

    I think losing Brockers ,Claiborne, and Taylor will really hurt.

    Your offense was a joke. Sure, you've got a JUCO coming in, but you will struggle to throw the ball. Nice power running game though.

    I would absolutely love to face you guys or Alabama. We will hang half a hundred on anybody.

    LOL! Not sure if you "left" coasters are really serious or not ; )

    Where exactly does this false bravado come from?? lol

    USC was an eyelash away from finishing with 3 PUS-10 losses last year. If not for a last second missed FG by Oregon not a soul would even be having these conversions.

    Devon97

  • The Honey Badger is going to cover Robert Woods...who's gonna cover M.L? M.M might not get alot of yards at first but once SC airs it out, it's gonna open up that run game.

    Still too early though..but I'd admit, it would be one hell of a championship game.

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