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  • brdcstr1 said...

    Whoa, surprised others have been showing you such respect, given your own lack of respect at times. Must be the full block paragraph thingy. Let's take a look at some of your comments:

    "I'm willing to bet many of your fans tout the "we are SC and we are the best, but have only experienced the 2000's era where you have been dominant. They just as easily forget the 90s when you sucked A$$ big time."

    In the 1990s, Oregon had a record of 70-48, while USC's record was 69-48-4. Given that was the FIRST decade you had a ranked team since 1957, suffice it to say that USC's "sucked A$$ big time" decade would have represented the highlight of your entire history. After all, your best decade ever only saw you win one more game, rank in the polls one less time than USC, while winning zero Rose bowls to USC's one Rose Bowl win.

    Sheesh, we won't even get into your stellar 2-5 record in bowl games, in comparison to USC's 4-3 bowl game record.

    So yeah, thanks for making a point. USC's nearly 20 year record of irrelevance would be considered the highlight of Oregon's entire football history.

    "Reggie Bush, Joe McKnight and Daniel Campbell are 3 players who had ties to Lyles."

    Sorry pal, your inference is clear. Let's get one thing straight. You're not being investigated by the NCAA because of your ties to Lyles. You're being investigated because he assisted your coaches in the recruitment of players for pay.

    If you seriously think that Pete Carroll or USC needed to pay will Lyles to assist in the recruitment of Reggie, Joe, or Daniel Campbell, you're just as whacked out as your QB for claiming he was asleep in a vehicle going 118 MPH while guys were getting loaded.

    Tell us, Duck...what "ties" did a scout from Houston have with five-star players from San Diego and Louisiana?

    "You remind me of a few LSU homers that have been lurking on our Duck board lately...angry and hateful"

    ...says the guy who admits to hating USC, while being unable to hide his giddiness over USC being taken down a few notches by the NCAA.

    "Banding together and wishing the best for our conference affiliates does nothing but help each other."

    How does Oregon's success help USC? This does not compute.

    If you really believed that, why did you earlier admit to being "conflicted in regards to the sanctions?" Seems to me that a person claiming to wish the best for our conference affiliates wouldn't admit to "rooting a little bit for the downfall of a rival program," either.

    Pretty good BRDCSTR...Thanks for the kudos for my ability to write in coherent paragraphs. I've said from the beginning of this post I'd just be forthright with my comments. I don't think I've been disrespectful, though I've traded barbs with 1 or 2 of your posters. I think you are right in much of what you have posted, so I'll respond in kind:

    I'll start with the "fans tout" comment. It is simply a rival fans feeling. Just like you guys hate us for being so passionate even though you feel we have no reason to be...as you have pointed out we've done very little in our history to warrant such a passionate fan base. Saying you guys sucked A$$ big time is a stretch, but it is hard to deny that you weren't anywhere near up to your par...a 3-8 season, a couple of 6-5 seasons. And hey, one man's throw away food is another man's filet mignon. The 90's aren't necessarily the heighth of our program, but it is certainly our rise to significance so it is an important decade for us. We were ranked in 1957??? Damn we got some history WOOHOO!! Can I now talk about our winning tradition and past historical rankings??

    Bowls...hmmm. I'm not exactly sure what the 2-5 record exactly means. I am well aware we haven't won any big ones since the 2002 Fiesta Bowl. Outside of that our program has been to 15 bowls in the last 16 years. We gotta start somewhere...Also not sure why you chose to list yourselves as 4-3 bowl record. Is this in relation to the 90s? If so, I didn't look it up as once again I'm not so concerned about history.

    The History thing: Very easy argument that I'll never win on this board. Would I talk history if I was part of a program that had a tremendous amount? Maybe. I'm not really sure. I'm almost 40 and can barely remember anything before my 20s. Conveniently for me that puts me back to the late 80s early 90s (right in the start of UO's rise to significance). But simply put, you guys have it and we don't. So history if very relevant and significant to your program. One caveat though...We have some duck posters that played on our football teams and you have some trojan posters who played on your football teams...outside of those few guys, none of us have won anything. We root for a bunch of guys running around in tights with an inflatable pigskin. So that is also why the history and "we are SC" stuff bugs me. Only some people have actually represented their University in anything!

    R. Bush, Joe McKnight and D. Campbell with ties to Lyles...I brought this up because of a poster who wondered who Lyles would be rooting for. Pretty witty comment. I only responded by saying both our schools have ties (past or present) to the guy. USC shouldn't have to pay anyone to come to their school, but you are also not the only school with tradition, NCs, and a great overall program. There are a few others who rival you in most of these categories. So, you do have competition whether you are willing to admit it or not and who knows what that causes coaches/boosters to do. I'm not worried about an investigation. I wouldn't paint my self giddy that you got sanctions. You seem excited that we are in the NCAA crosshairs though. Sure I hate the Trojans football team...I don't hate a single person on this board and don't really have the capacity to hate anyone over a football game. My hate lies between the sidelines of a football field and I want to win the games. Outside of that I love college football, and as a father of 3 children I'm not here to bag on a bunch of college kids. I wish success on all of them on the whole.

    Here is a list of players from a 247 article referencing Lyles and kids he has had influence with:

    The list of players rumored to be involved at one time or another with Will Lyles is staggering. I want to stress “rumor” because that is what some of these are.

    Patrick Peterson – LSU
    RJ Jackson – LSU
    Brandon Lafell – LSU
    Terrence Tolliver – LSU
    (seeing a theme here?)
    Lache Seastrunk – Oregon (misdirection! I see what you did there.)
    Shaun Lewis – Oklahoma State
    Toney Hurd – Oklahoma State
    Ahmad Dixon – Baylor Tennessee Baylor wins!
    Mike Goodson – A&M
    Martellus Bennett – A&M
    Trent Richardson – Bama
    Reggie Bush – USC
    Joe McNight – USC
    Trevon Randle – LSU

    Yes, I was conflicted in regards to the sanctions because I'm human. Lots of thoughts on this one such as: Why do your current kids have to get punished when they had nothing to do with RB. Why does PC get to jump ship and walk scott free when he would have been most responsible. Man, wouldn't it be great if the Trojans got smacked and the Ducks could gain some ground in LA recruiting circles. Cool, if USC isn't allowed to play in a conference title game or win the conference, we have an open door to the championship if we can take care of business. It is called pros and cons and I see both sides. Bottom line the school probably deserved some sort of sanctions based on NCAA guidelines, but the system sucks. I've proposed on other boards that the school should have the opportunity to sidestep sanctions in these cases. The player caught red handed should be blackballed by the NFL for a # of years based on the severity of the infraction, and the coach involved should be fired and also not be given an opportunity for a position in NCAA or NFL for a # of years also based on severity. Just my take, and if it were enacted in my eyes USC could have escaped without any punishment. It should have all gone to RB and PC.

    I don't know if D Thomas was sleeping or smoking in that car...I love my team, but I'm not a total homer...I would guess DT loves him some weed. I went to college too and also had no problem smoking. I don't condone it and don't find driving 118 down the freeway a good practice either. I'm not gonna bend my morals for CFB success. But, I'm also not sure sitting in a passenger seat and smoking a doobie really belongs in a thread where I asked about conference affiliation and whether people back rival teams in OOC games.

    Oregon successful helps the conference. While you are in the Pac-12, what is good for the conference is good for its members. Sorry if that does not compute.

    I tried to cover all your thoughts...

    This post was edited by 97duck on 8/31/2011 at 11:46 AM

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  • To answer the OP on a few points:

    1. Pete Carroll has nothing to answer for. The investigation showed PC did nothing wrong. We need to cut out this revisionist crap that PC bailed because he was going to get punished.

    2. I like pat haden but you would be shocked how misinformed he is about Paul Dees, the NCAA committee, and other things NCAA related. This comes from people I know who have interviewed him in the last few months.

    3. Larry scott actually is furious with the NCAA and has stated so privately. USC has asked him not to lobby for them. Scott is furious. The guilty parties right now are Nikias and company not Scott.

    4. USC fans have every right to complain against PAC 10 officiating. What happened was both criminal and blatant. This is why USC fans don't trust the Pac 10 folks.

    5. Pat haden has said privately that we are headed for 4 superconferences and there is nothing the NCAA can do about it.
    6. I will root for oregon over any team from that conference. Be careful if u beat them too bad because that leads to jealousy which leads to sanctions.

    7. USC has never had a lyles player playing for them. Let's quit spreading that manure around.

    8. USC runs a clean program and Oregon does not. Chip and company are the dirtiest program on the west coast.

    Winning the academic award in the SEC is sort of like winning the special olympics. Even if you win, you are still a retard.

    FREE KOBE

  • In the words of Justin Hopkins it will be tremendous news when LSU beats Oregon

    dukeb15

  • FREE KOBE said...

    To answer the OP on a few points:

    1. Pete Carroll has nothing to answer for. The investigation showed PC did nothing wrong. We need to cut out this revisionist crap that PC bailed because he was going to get punished.

    2. I like pat haden but you would be shocked how misinformed he is about Paul Dees, the NCAA committee, and other things NCAA related. This comes from people I know who have interviewed him in the last few months.

    3. Larry scott actually is furious with the NCAA and has stated so privately. USC has asked him not to lobby for them. Scott is furious. The guilty parties right now are Nikias and company not Scott.

    4. USC fans have every right to complain against PAC 10 officiating. What happened was both criminal and blatant. This is why USC fans don't trust the Pac 10 folks.

    5. Pat haden has said privately that we are headed for 4 superconferences and there is nothing the NCAA can do about it. 6. I will root for oregon over any team from that conference. Be careful if u beat them too bad because that leads to jealousy which leads to sanctions.

    7. USC has never had a lyles player playing for them. Let's quit spreading that manure around.

    8. USC runs a clean program and Oregon does not. Chip and company are the dirtiest program on the west coast.

    Disagree with #1...2-7 seem right on, though I'm a little confused about #4. Officiating? In game calls? Not sure what you are referencing. Don't trust pac-10 folks in regards to NCAA sanction stuff? Other than Scott, no-one else in the Pac 10 could help you in regards to the NCAA.

    #8. You guys screamed for proof for years regarding RB and rightly so. You got screwed IMHO. Don't turn yourself into the same as all the people calling for USCs head without knowing all the facts and just jumping on rumors/innuendo. Calling UO the dirtiest program on the west coast is ridiculous. Maybe they are dirty, maybe they aren't...I'd be interested in your PROOF and not your CONJECTURE. If the NCAA was willing to hit USC and other higher profile programs UO would be slammed in a heartbeat as we don't hold the same power in CFB. Maybe we will get hit, but apparently the NCAA infractions committee is unaware of your proof that Chip and UO is the dirtiest program on the west coast. I'm again not here to argue sanctions/dirty programs etc. I'm surprised as the only west coast program under suspension and "proven" as dirty you are calling out others.

    But again, I don't think your program is dirty. I respect PH...I respect your institution. I like daddy Kiffin, but don't really like Lane. Really have an icky feeling about E Orgeron...that doesn't mean I'm willing to call them dirty. I am a football fan (I think a fairly informed/knowledgeable one at that). But, I know what I don't know and that is the inner workings of each of our athletic institutions.

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  • dukeb15 said...

    In the words of Justin Hopkins it will be tremendous news when LSU beats Oregon

    This game is a tough pick. I'll be extremely disappointed if we lose to LSU, but I wouldn't be surprised. What do you mean "tremendous news?"

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  • duck I hope Oregon smokes LSU. Then I hope Oregon goes undefeated UNTIL we go to Autzen and throttle you. I also hope LSU's only loss is to Oregon. I then hope Oregon goes to the BCS Championship game due to its win over LSU and then beats say Oklahoma for the BS National Championship...........While an undefeated SC gets the AP National Championship! That would make me smile!

    Other then that I hate Oregon and your coach Chipper.

    utahsctrojan

  • 97duck said...

    Whenever the Pac 10 plays OOC games I always root for you guys. I've always pulled for USC in their BCS bowls and others, even UW and OSU as a Duck fan...That being said, are you guys hoping for an Oregon victory over LSU so that the Pac holds some bragging rights or would you like to see us get put in our place? We all have our rivalries...I live in So Cal, so honestly I hate the Trojans. That is mostly because I recognize you have ruled our conference for many years. Hate and respect are two very different entities. I respect your program a great deal. Anyway, go Pac-12!! I find it important for our conference to do well as a whole. Team first, Conference second, soul crushing hate for my rival teams (UW, OSU, USC) third! I'll be rooting for you guys most of the year, just not against us for sure!! Go Ducks!!

    Yea thats right it is all about today and today Oregon is on top. We here at USC should have adapted to the spread a long time ago but we got these traditionalist holding us back. We should have gone with the alternate all black unis before Oregon and again the traditionalism holds us back. Coach Kiffin even admitted that we are weak in defending the spread because we really dont practice against the spread offense much. So until we figure that out i have to admit that Oregon will be on top. And i root for Oregon when they are not playing USC. I love the competition that Oregon brings to USC and i hate when USC is successful cause other teams lose instead of earning the respect on the field. If it was not for Oregon's electrifying offense USC would still be in the past hyping up the dated Pro Style and recruiting quarterbacks that only operate in the pocket. Thanks Oregon for helping us see what we need to do to succeed again

    Oh! and our dynasty in the 2000's was not because of some kind of traditionalism but because Pete Carroll with Norm Chow were on the cutting edge of college football offense and built a defense that went all out against that cutting edge everyday.

    This post was edited by newtrojan on 8/31/2011 at 12:37 PM

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  • BS on the black unis man.....FAIL. Sorry didn't even read the rest.....

    utahsctrojan

  • brdcstr1 said...

    Whoa, surprised others have been showing you such respect, given your own lack of respect at times. Must be the full block paragraph thingy. Let's take a look at some of your comments:

    "I'm willing to bet many of your fans tout the "we are SC and we are the best, but have only experienced the 2000's era where you have been dominant. They just as easily forget the 90s when you sucked A$$ big time."

    In the 1990s, Oregon had a record of 70-48, while USC's record was 69-48-4. Given that was the FIRST decade you had a ranked team since 1957, suffice it to say that USC's "sucked A$$ big time" decade would have represented the highlight of your entire history. After all, your best decade ever only saw you win one more game, rank in the polls one less time than USC, while winning zero Rose bowls to USC's one Rose Bowl win.

    Sheesh, we won't even get into your stellar 2-5 record in bowl games, in comparison to USC's 4-3 bowl game record.

    So yeah, thanks for making a point. USC's nearly 20 year record of irrelevance would be considered the highlight of Oregon's entire football history.

    "Reggie Bush, Joe McKnight and Daniel Campbell are 3 players who had ties to Lyles."

    Sorry pal, your inference is clear. Let's get one thing straight. You're not being investigated by the NCAA because of your ties to Lyles. You're being investigated because he assisted your coaches in the recruitment of players for pay.

    If you seriously think that Pete Carroll or USC needed to pay will Lyles to assist in the recruitment of Reggie, Joe, or Daniel Campbell, you're just as whacked out as your QB for claiming he was asleep in a vehicle going 118 MPH while guys were getting loaded.

    Tell us, Duck...what "ties" did a scout from Houston have with five-star players from San Diego and Louisiana?

    "You remind me of a few LSU homers that have been lurking on our Duck board lately...angry and hateful"

    ...says the guy who admits to hating USC, while being unable to hide his giddiness over USC being taken down a few notches by the NCAA.

    "Banding together and wishing the best for our conference affiliates does nothing but help each other."

    How does Oregon's success help USC? This does not compute.

    If you really believed that, why did you earlier admit to being "conflicted in regards to the sanctions?" Seems to me that a person claiming to wish the best for our conference affiliates wouldn't admit to "rooting a little bit for the downfall of a rival program," either.

    Pure ownage. Missed seeing these brdcstr posts on the old board. Fight on!

    And Go LSU!

    ZoniTrojan

  • utahsctrojan said...

    BS on the black unis man.....FAIL. Sorry didn't even read the rest.....

    Yea, see how that guys head is in the sand? Thats exactly what i was talking about.

    newtrojan

  • newtrojan said...

    Yea thats right it is all about today and today Oregon is on top. We here at USC should have adapted to the spread a long time ago but we got these traditionalist holding us back. We should have gone with the alternate all black unis before Oregon and again the traditionalism holds us back. Coach Kiffin even admitted that we are weak in defending the spread because we really dont practice against the spread offense much. So until we figure that out i have to admit that Oregon will be on top. And i root for Oregon when they are not playing USC. I love the competition that Oregon brings to USC and i hate when USC is successful cause other teams lose instead of earning the respect on the field. If it was not for Oregon's electrifying offense USC would still be in the past hyping up the dated Pro Style and recruiting quarterbacks that only operate in the pocket. Thanks Oregon for helping us see what we need to do to succeed again

    Oh! and our dynasty in the 2000's was not because of some kind of traditionalism but because Pete Carroll with Norm Chow were on the cutting edge of college football offense and built a defense that went all out against that cutting edge everyday.

    Oy vey!! Some posters should really just read and not post. This is just dumb.

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  • 97duck said...

    Disagree with #1...2-7 seem right on, though I'm a little confused about #4. Officiating? In game calls? Not sure what you are referencing. Don't trust pac-10 folks in regards to NCAA sanction stuff? Other than Scott, no-one else in the Pac 10 could help you in regards to the NCAA.

    #8. You guys screamed for proof for years regarding RB and rightly so. You got screwed IMHO. Don't turn yourself into the same as all the people calling for USCs head without knowing all the facts and just jumping on rumors/innuendo. Calling UO the dirtiest program on the west coast is ridiculous. Maybe they are dirty, maybe they aren't...I'd be interested in your PROOF and not your CONJECTURE. If the NCAA was willing to hit USC and other higher profile programs UO would be slammed in a heartbeat as we don't hold the same power in CFB. Maybe we will get hit, but apparently the NCAA infractions committee is unaware of your proof that Chip and UO is the dirtiest program on the west coast. I'm again not here to argue sanctions/dirty programs etc. I'm surprised as the only west coast program under suspension and "proven" as dirty you are calling out others.

    But again, I don't think your program is dirty. I respect PH...I respect your institution. I like daddy Kiffin, but don't really like Lane. Really have an icky feeling about E Orgeron...that doesn't mean I'm willing to call them dirty. I am a football fan (I think a fairly informed/knowledgeable one at that). But, I know what I don't know and that is the inner workings of each of our athletic institutions.

    Duck--Maybe you are not in the loop on the facts of officiating USC games the last 7 years. I wont go into calls against USC, but just focus on calls against USC opponents. It is important to note that the new director of officiating recognized these stats publicly recently (in addition to it being recgonized publicly in 2007)

    Here are the facts about USC and opponent penalties

    USC has finised 9th or 10th in opponent penalty yards EVERY year since 2004...finishing 10th five of those seven years. USC finished last every year from 2004-2007, something the Pac 10 Director of Officials called a "mathematical improbability" before the 2008 season. I wonder what he would call it after 3 more years....

    Since (and including 2004), USC has received 15% less opponent penalty yards than the #9 team in the conference.
    That gap (between last and second to last in a conference) is almost 4.5x BIGGER than the average gap for all BCS conferences over that time frame. The gap for USC is 2.5 BIGGER than the next widest gap of any BCS conference. (ACC and Big East data for 2005 forward due to realignment) Talk about an outlier!

    No other Pac 10 school has finished in the bottom 2 more than twice (2 schools twice, 3 schools zero times) while USC has finished in the bottom 2 seven times

    USC has not finished in the top 3 in opponent penalties at any time in the period, the only school in the conference with that distinction. The schools in the Pacific Northwest have finished in the top 3 an amazing 14 TIMES

    No other school in the country has finished in the bottom 2 in its conference (bcs conferences only) more than 4 times durng this time frame (and only one school did it 4 times) compared to USC's 7 times

    mb2trojan

  • newtrojan said...

    Yea thats right it is all about today and today Oregon is on top. We here at USC should have adapted to the spread a long time ago but we got these traditionalist holding us back. We should have gone with the alternate all black unis before Oregon and again the traditionalism holds us back. Coach Kiffin even admitted that we are weak in defending the spread because we really dont practice against the spread offense much. So until we figure that out i have to admit that Oregon will be on top. And i root for Oregon when they are not playing USC. I love the competition that Oregon brings to USC and i hate when USC is successful cause other teams lose instead of earning the respect on the field. If it was not for Oregon's electrifying offense USC would still be in the past hyping up the dated Pro Style and recruiting quarterbacks that only operate in the pocket. Thanks Oregon for helping us see what we need to do to succeed again

    Oh! and our dynasty in the 2000's was not because of some kind of traditionalism but because Pete Carroll with Norm Chow were on the cutting edge of college football offense and built a defense that went all out against that cutting edge everyday.

    This might have been a really great, witty, sarcastic post had I been arguing any of these points. Oregon is on top right now. Whoopie. Yeah we got a great spread offense. If we expect to stay on top for any length of time we better start innovating differently as most teams are catching up. USC's pro style gameplan keeps them involved with top recruits looking to advance to the NFL. You have great players and I'm willing to bet Kiffin could end up being a pretty great coach. Monte's system was difficult to grasp at first, but your players entering into multiple years under his system could start to regain their form. The reason you fell back is really due to complacency in my opinion. USC has probably the greatest 5 year run under their belt for any CFB program. This is pretty undisputable. USC may have a few down years if the sanctions take a toll, but the team will be back soon enough. Not really sure where all your thoughts are coming from though as your post seems really out of left field.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by 97duck on 8/31/2011 at 12:53 PM

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  • Excellent...thanks for the info MB2. I appreciate being given an opportunity to learn about these sorts of team stats. I'd be frustrated and pissed too if that were the case in regards to Oregon. Good to see you are so up to date on these sorts of things as it shows the depth of your knowledge of your program. Why no response to #8?

    This post was edited by 97duck on 8/31/2011 at 12:51 PM

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  • 97duck said...

    This might have been a really great, witty, sarcastic post had I been arguing any of these points. Oregon is on top right now. Whoopie. Yeah we got a great spread offense. If we expect to stay on top for any length of time we better start innovating differently as most teams are catching up. USC's pro style gameplan keeps them involved with top recruits looking to advance to the NFL. You have great players and I'm willing to bet Kiffin could end up being a pretty great coach. Monte's system was difficult to grasp at first, but your players entering into multiple years under his system could start to regain their form. The reason you fell back is really due to complacency in my opinion. USC has probably the greatest 5 year run under their best for any CFB program. This is pretty undisputable. USC may have a few down hears if the sanctions take a toll, but the team will be back soon enough. Not really sure where all your thoughts are coming from though as your post seems really out of left field.

    Don't feel bad duckie....the guy is the most retarded poster ever to log on a USC site, lol.

    I'll trade you for him, even with your snarky, left handed compliments prior to this post.

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  • usctrojan1 said...

    Don't feel bad duckie....the guy is the most retarded poster ever to log on a USC site, lol.

    I'll trade you for him, even with your snarky, left handed compliments prior to this post.

    Well, if snarky were outlawed I'm betting we would have no posters on 247sports. Don't short sell me...I'm an ambidextrous complimenter!

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  • 97duck said...

    Well, if snarky were outlawed I'm betting we would have no posters on 247sports. Don't short sell me...I'm an ambidextrous complimenter!

    OK whatever duck

    Do me a favor..hey Go say Hi to my old chum Danny O'Neil. tell him it's from Jackson from Foothill the next time you are up in Eugene, now he'll probably tell you to go to church on Sunday ( as he's a preacher now). Anyways...you are right.... USC is better than Oregon !!!
    Fight On !!

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by icky trojan on 8/31/2011 at 2:17 PM

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  • 97duck said...

    are you guys hoping for an Oregon victory over LSU so that the Pac holds some bragging rights or would you like to see us get put in our place?

    I would've been rooting for the Ducks a couple years ago but now? Eh, I don't care, but they BETTER freaking win.

    I understand the fans of other Pac10 teams clicking their fruity little heels over our punishment, but what I'm sick of is the non-stop SANCTIMONIOUS LECTURING and self-righteous bullshyte we've had to listen to from you JOs.

    Especially as it comes from Oregon fans. Talk about hypocrites.

    And I have yet to hear an Oregon fan get it right as to what we were actually punished for. One quack fan told me to my face that we deserved to get punished because we cheated when Matt Leinart paid for Reggie Bush's rent. That pure ignorance is TYPICAL. At least get it right.

    But good luck against the Tigers, I guess. It's really a no-win for you. Win, and they were depleted, you should've won. Lose, and it's just another example of the SEC dominating.

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  • Icky...I was in school same time as D Oneill. Also at the Rose Bowl game v. Penn State where I'm sure many here will be quick to point out we lost (he had a great game though...I believe he broke records for completions/yards etc.). Quality guy and nice to see these athletes put effort back into their communities.

    SC95...Yup...probably right on with a lot of your post. Not everyone is an ignorant homer though. I've got close Beaver friends, family from UW, and know a lot of Trojans (hey I live in San Diego!). Start off on the right foot, and most people can talk fairly about CFB for a long time without getting into a pissing match.

    As to your last statement...You couldn't be more dead on. The pressure is squarely on UO. Now we have our own losses, but they are not as glaring nor covered as much by the media. Harris is a big one, though as a Duck fan I can say fairly confidently that his back up should be just fine. In fact I think he may even be a better fit for this game as he outweighs CH by 25 lbs and we may need that bulk to tackle any LSU RBs coming through the middle or to the outside. But, K. Alonso is our best LB and he is also out. His size at 6-4 240 would have been helpful for the up the gut runs which we will see a lot of from Ware/Blue etc. We may also be without J. Huff which is yet to be determined, but could also be a big blow.

    We shall see...

    This post was edited by 97duck on 8/31/2011 at 2:43 PM

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  • 97duck said...

    Icky...I was in school same time as D Oneill. Also at the Rose Bowl game v. Penn State where I'm sure many here will be quick to point out we lost (he had a great game though...I believe he broke records for completions/yards etc.). Quality guy and nice to see these athletes put effort back into their communities.

    SC95...Yup...probably right on with a lot of your post. Not everyone is an ignorant homer though. I've got close Beaver friends, family from UW, and know a lot of Trojans (hey I live in San Diego!). Start off on the right foot, and most people can talk fairly about CFB for a long time without getting into a pissing match.

    As to your last statement...You couldn't be more dead on. The pressure is squarely on UO. Now we have our own losses, but they are not as glaring nor covered as much by the media. Harris is a big one, though as a Duck fan I can say fairly confidently that his back up should be just fine. In fact I think he may even be a better fit for this game as he outweighs CH by 25 lbs and we may need that bulk to tackle any LSU RBs coming through the middle or to the outside. But, K. Alonso is our best LB and he is also out. His size at 6-4 240 would have been helpful for the up the gut runs which we will see a lot of from Ware/Blue etc. We may also be without J. Huff which is yet to be determined, but could also be a big blow.

    We shall see...

    Danny's good people for sure ! Kind of a nut growing up I'll tell you ( never thought he'd get into the clegry..but that's really cool for him) and he was very good at basketball as well as football.

    Yes, he played quite a game in that Rose Bowl ( set passing records)! I remember, I was proud to say to people that he was a friend of mine and I still keep up on FB a little, very good guy.

    Well stop pissing off my Trojan friends duck !!! HAhaaha ... Make sure you come back to the board and check in though and enjoy the season
    Later
    Fight On!!!

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  • 97duck said...

    Icky...I was in school same time as D Oneill. Also at the Rose Bowl game v. Penn State where I'm sure many here will be quick to point out we lost (he had a great game though...I believe he broke records for completions/yards etc.). Quality guy and nice to see these athletes put effort back into their communities.

    SC95...Yup...probably right on with a lot of your post. Not everyone is an ignorant homer though. I've got close Beaver friends, family from UW, and know a lot of Trojans (hey I live in San Diego!). Start off on the right foot, and most people can talk fairly about CFB for a long time without getting into a pissing match.

    As to your last statement...You couldn't be more dead on. The pressure is squarely on UO. Now we have our own losses, but they are not as glaring nor covered as much by the media. Harris is a big one, though as a Duck fan I can say fairly confidently that his back up should be just fine. In fact I think he may even be a better fit for this game as he outweighs CH by 25 lbs and we may need that bulk to tackle any LSU RBs coming through the middle or to the outside. But, K. Alonso is our best LB and he is also out. His size at 6-4 240 would have been helpful for the up the gut runs which we will see a lot of from Ware/Blue etc. We may also be without J. Huff which is yet to be determined, but could also be a big blow.

    We shall see...

    I was reading your board last night and by the looks of it, some people believe that Kiko Alonso may actually play, since Chip Kelly hasn't made a decision yet. Huff sitting out would be tough, isn't he your #1 WR? As far as Terrance Mitchell, I know you guys have high hopes for him. Any chance he starts alongside Cliff Harris when Cliff is back, or will it be Harris/Gildon?

    Adamson651

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    I was reading your board last night and by the looks of it, some people believe that Kiko Alonso may actually play, since Chip Kelly hasn't made a decision yet. Huff sitting out would be tough, isn't he your #1 WR? As far as Terrance Mitchell, I know you guys have high hopes for him. Any chance he starts alongside Cliff Harris when Cliff is back, or will it be Harris/Gildon?

    Hey adamson...saw you over there. Way to rep well on our board by the way. Anyway, KA is up in the air. We are all wondering as he isn't listed on our 2 deep, though that seems a little arbitrary. The issue is no-one seems to know what his benchmarks were to get back on the field and he hasn't been ruled out as CH was. Best guess from all of us seems to be out the 1st quarter/maybe 1st half, then back in. Huff is technically #2, but really based on Tuinei being around longer, more consistent, and a more proven downfield blocker. Huff clearly has more talent though and stretches the field with his speed which is something our offense really needs in order to stretch the defense and open up lanes underneath the safeties/CBs. I love T Mitchell and frankly don't quite understand why he wasn't spoken about for the other CB spot. I think LSU and possibly the 2nd game of the season could help determine this. Gildon is a SR. and nobody ever hears anything about him (good or bad). It may be that due to style of defensive play starter designation doesn't really matter all that much. If Gildon struggles at all, I see T Mitch taking a starting spot with T. Hill pushing also. Good questions for sure as we over at DT are thinking about these very issues.

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  • 97duck said...

    Hey adamson...saw you over there. Way to rep well on our board by the way. Anyway, KA is up in the air. We are all wondering as he isn't listed on our 2 deep, though that seems a little arbitrary. The issue is no-one seems to know what his benchmarks were to get back on the field and he hasn't been ruled out as CH was. Best guess from all of us seems to be out the 1st quarter/maybe 1st half, then back in. Huff is technically #2, but really based on Tuinei being around longer, more consistent, and a more proven downfield blocker. Huff clearly has more talent though and stretches the field with his speed which is something our offense really needs in order to stretch the defense and open up lanes underneath the safeties/CBs. I love T Mitchell and frankly don't quite understand why he wasn't spoken about for the other CB spot. I think LSU and possibly the 2nd game of the season could help determine this. Gildon is a SR. and nobody ever hears anything about him (good or bad). It may be that due to style of defensive play starter designation doesn't really matter all that much. If Gildon struggles at all, I see T Mitch taking a starting spot with T. Hill pushing also. Good questions for sure as we over at DT are thinking about these very issues.

    Thanks man. I'm trying to keep up, so I know my stuff when we play you guys.

    I'm not real big on "conference pride," but the fact that you are playing a team from the SEC, where everyone in the conference thinks they're the shit, really has me pulling for the Ducks. If only their elite teams actually scheduled non-cupcake OOC games, we'd really know where that conference stands. So, hopefully Oregon is the one to show them. IMO, Alabama is the only "real good" team in the SEC this year, so all of the SEC honks will have to feed off the Crimson Tide.

    Adamson651

  • brdcstr1 said...

    Whoa, surprised others have been showing you such respect, given your own lack of respect at times. Must be the full block paragraph thingy. Let's take a look at some of your comments:

    "I'm willing to bet many of your fans tout the "we are SC and we are the best, but have only experienced the 2000's era where you have been dominant. They just as easily forget the 90s when you sucked A$$ big time."

    In the 1990s, Oregon had a record of 70-48, while USC's record was 69-48-4. Given that was the FIRST decade you had a ranked team since 1957, suffice it to say that USC's "sucked A$$ big time" decade would have represented the highlight of your entire history. After all, your best decade ever only saw you win one more game, rank in the polls one less time than USC, while winning zero Rose bowls to USC's one Rose Bowl win.

    Sheesh, we won't even get into your stellar 2-5 record in bowl games, in comparison to USC's 4-3 bowl game record.

    So yeah, thanks for making a point. USC's nearly 20 year record of irrelevance would be considered the highlight of Oregon's entire football history.

    "Reggie Bush, Joe McKnight and Daniel Campbell are 3 players who had ties to Lyles."

    Sorry pal, your inference is clear. Let's get one thing straight. You're not being investigated by the NCAA because of your ties to Lyles. You're being investigated because he assisted your coaches in the recruitment of players for pay.

    If you seriously think that Pete Carroll or USC needed to pay will Lyles to assist in the recruitment of Reggie, Joe, or Daniel Campbell, you're just as whacked out as your QB for claiming he was asleep in a vehicle going 118 MPH while guys were getting loaded.

    Tell us, Duck...what "ties" did a scout from Houston have with five-star players from San Diego and Louisiana?

    "You remind me of a few LSU homers that have been lurking on our Duck board lately...angry and hateful"

    ...says the guy who admits to hating USC, while being unable to hide his giddiness over USC being taken down a few notches by the NCAA.

    "Banding together and wishing the best for our conference affiliates does nothing but help each other."

    How does Oregon's success help USC? This does not compute.

    If you really believed that, why did you earlier admit to being "conflicted in regards to the sanctions?" Seems to me that a person claiming to wish the best for our conference affiliates wouldn't admit to "rooting a little bit for the downfall of a rival program," either.

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  • Action Figure said...

    Eff conference pride. Fans from Pac 10 schools were happier than those from the SEC when SC got hit with the baby death penalty. In short, Geaux Tigers!

    This!!

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