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Some Interesting Quote from the "LiL Snake''

  • lafromla1 said...

    And no one on last year's USC team that was recruited for a specific position switched to another?

    You go where the team needs you and the team will not put you in a position that you can't handle. Personally, I really don't care that he didn't come to USC, especially if it wasnt in his heart to do so, but don't make excuses for the way he punked the USC coaches and players. Step and be a man. Just say that I have thought long and hard and I want to go to Duck Shit U and dont string along a bunch of people up until the last moment.

    I disagree with your switching position statement...I can't imagine you or I would want to go to a school if they said,"well, we are gonna play you at corner and if we have room or something happens then we may switch you." Especially when he had any number of schools that would let him pick his position and start playing it immediately.

    In terms of the way everything was handled I have a couple thoughts:

    1. If the roles were reversed my guess is you would be posting dancing bananas because you landed one of the top high school players in the nation just before the recruiting period came to an end.

    2. I absolutely agree that he didn't handle the situation well. I'm certainly not expecting any Trojans to be happy about the whole episode. But, it's old news and he was in HS. Did you make no mistakes in high school? Did you ever feel pressure in high school? imagine how much pressure was on the kid...not just his friends, family, community, but also the entire football staff at USC...you know how big and important SC is...I'm guessing that was a lot of pressure on him. Doesn't excuse the way it was handled, but at some point in time you would think (just like all his REAL friends have) people would get past it and stop acting so slighted. Hell I bet if you asked Lane Kiffin he'd probably say,"I really wish it didn't happen the way it did. I really wish he would have given us the opportunity to communicate with him. But, he was young and high school kids make all sorts of unexpected decisions. I wish him the best, but I'll make sure he remembers his decision every Saturday we meet on the field."

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  • 97duck said...

    Totally agree with you assessment of his future Felix, but you are missing a very important point. He didn't want to play DB. Kind of like Jake Plummer or Barry Sanders...both those guys had the opportunity for large contracts and continued careers, but they didn't want it. They wanted something different. They are happier people for the decisions they made. I don't know if DaT is happy, but going to USC just because he would have had better pro prospects is a decision you would have made...probably me too, but he wanted to play offense. I applaud him for making a very tough decision to pursue what he thought would make him happier as opposed to what he felt would make him more money.

    Given SC's track record with letting kids like Lee and Ronald Johnson play O, I'd have a hard time imagining he wouldn't have gotten a shot on offense if he came here and asked for it. That being said, I also recognize that if he had his heart set on offense, playing in Oregon's system really does work better for his skill set than a pro style system at USC (see my last post above this one).

    The larger issues I have with it are actually buying the motivations he gave for making the switch to Oregon and, much more importantly, the way he went about it. Frankly, I don't care why he made the switch (even though I'd be the first to admit I'd love to have him here); what I do care about is his actions and some very disrespectful ones at that.

    FelixTheCat322

  • TrojanWarrior1 said...

    Yes...yes we do.

    If I were a D1 reciever considering Kal, I would rethink my recruitment. If I went there it's about 100% chance someone in the USC secondary would knock the sh!t out of me at some point in my career.

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  • 97duck said...

    I think this is a very good post. Though, I don't think he was forced out. I think he was a nervous 17 year old speaking to an audience he was aware would be upset with his decision and knowing how long he had so many people convinced he was a trojan. I understand why people were upset with the decision, but his friends have nothing but love for the kid. Sure they want to beat his ass on the field now (as they should), but they are all fine with his decision and wish him the best. The only people wishing ill on him or cursing him are fans who don't (really) know him at all and have formed opinions about him from media, random quotes, etc. He is an 18 year old kid who made a decision a year ago...might be time to follow the lead of those who know him best and move forward.

    Also, I do wish he wouldn't speak about the game and inflame the Trojan players and fanbase...The ducks will have enough to deal with/worry about Nov. 3rd without added flames to the fire. I have no doubt he can back it up, but until the duck DBs are able to do anything against Lee and Woods I'd rather not poke the bear.

    I didn't mean to infer that I believe DeAnthony was forced out, but more to infer that the inclination doesn't seem so far-fetched upon watching the video...to me, he really appears to be torn more so than nervous--but I wouldn't go as far as to intimate this was indeed the case. You very well could be right that he was nervous and going against the wishes of a lot of fam & friends; but I know that it was a decision he made, nontheless! I believe that he is more confident in that decision now than he was before the game last season...and wants to vindicate himself from what he believes was a poor performance by himself and his team.

    And I agree, there are better methods of going about the same task he set out for in making such statements; however, he an athlete who wears his heart on his sleeve--and coupled with the competitor within him...that's as volatile a combination as they come! But he's not lacking for confidence...I tell ya that!

    MdatrojaninE

  • MdatrojaninE said...

    I didn't mean to infer that I believe DeAnthony was forced out, but more to infer that the inclination doesn't seem so far-fetched upon watching the video...to me, he really appears to be torn more so than nervous--but I wouldn't go as far as to intimate this was indeed the case. You very well could be right that he was nervous and going against the wishes of a lot of fam & friends; but I know that it was a decision he made, nontheless! I believe that he is more confident in that decision now than he was before the game last season...and wants to vindicate himself from what he believes was a poor performance by himself and his team.

    And I agree, there are better methods of going about the same task he set out for in making such statements; however, he an athlete who wears his heart on his sleeve--and coupled with the competitor within him...that's as volatile a combination as they come! But he's not lacking for confidence...I tell ya that!

    yes agreed, but confidence on the football field is far different than being confident about public speaking.

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  • FelixTheCat322 said...

    No shame in that at all but here's the thing - Warrick Dunn (and Quizz Rogers, who's a bit like a modern incarnation of Dunn) were both 190 pounds and able to run between the tackles.

    De'Anthony is something in the neighborhood of 170, tops, and makes his living busting runs wide and turning the corner. Reggie Bush tried that and it didn't work, but the difference is he was able to reinvent himself as a one cut and go type of runner because he's 200 pounds; De'Anthony would get eaten alive if he tried that. He may have shot as a slot receiver because he is so explosive but that will require a lot of refinement with his routes, and Oregon's primarily going to use him in the backfield from now on.

    He's so small that even corner would be a struggle long term because NFL receivers would absolutely maul him in press coverage, but again he's explosive enough that he'd have no trouble turning and running with anyone, so it would be his best bet. I suppose that switch could still happen someday, too, but given how specialized everything is it would be unlikely; I remember RoJo, for example, saying WR would be his college position and CB his NFL position when he came here but it didn't play out that way.

    So yeah, next level he's probably a return specialist/special packages type guy, and the right coach can absolutely exploit that to some effect. But I remember reading an NFL scout who said it best - how many 170 pounders do you see in the NFL? If he can't make it through a full season healthy at Crenshaw, tough to imagine it happening at the professional level.

    I totally agree with your response regarding his size...if he cannot put on at least 15 pounds of the proper combo of fat/muscle lean, then you are absolutely correct about his chances of sustaining a long, productive career in the league. Without the proper weight gain I don't believe his body will hold either, but even still, he must learn how to play the position absorbing as little contact as possible--much like Warrick Dunn did!

    Do you not believe that he can put on necessary weight by the time he's NFL able, or do you believe it really doesn't matter if he can? I'm not sure...but the one thing scales can't measure is heart...and I believe he has the heart of a champion--I guess that's what makes him so appealing me...well that and his explosiveness!

    MdatrojaninE

  • 97duck said...

    yes agreed, but confidence on the football field is far different than being confident about public speaking.

    So very true...he just hasn't learn to blur the lines between the two is all, blackeye

    This post was edited by MdatrojaninE on 6/14/2012 at 5:04 PM

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  • MdatrojaninE said...

    I totally agree with your response regarding his size...if he cannot put on at least 15 pounds of the proper combo of fat/muscle lean, then you are absolutely correct about his chances of sustaining a long, productive career in the league. Without the proper weight gain I don't believe his body will hold either, but even still, he must learn how to play the position absorbing as little contact as possible--much like Warrick Dunn did!

    Do you not believe that he can put on necessary weight by the time he's NFL able, or do you believe it really doesn't matter if he can? I'm not sure...but the one thing scales can't measure is heart...and I believe he has the heart of a champion--I guess that's what makes him so appealing me...well that and his explosiveness!

    Honestly, time will have to tell with that one; after all, we're not in the weight room with him every day lol

    He's so tiny that I doubt it, though, and even then it's another matter entirely whether he'd learn to change his style at the next level; we saw how long it took Reggie to do exactly that.

    Total tangent here but he's such a good athlete pound for pound that I wonder how dominant he'd be in sports like boxing or soccer, where his body type would play better. Can only imagine him dancing around the ring, darting in and out of scrums or just tearing down the pitch as a striker. In that regard, he makes me think of an even smaller Allen Iverson (youtube his football highlights sometime, jawdropping stuff). And maybe like Iverson, he overcomes all of those size concerns to beat the odds and be a dominant player.

    I have my doubts though.

    This post was edited by FelixTheCat322 on 6/14/2012 at 5:25 PM

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  • Wait, some of you realize that he wasn't the one that said the thing about two freshmen DBs, right? He just retweeted it - something a lot of players do with fan tweets.

    Nothing wrong with a little trash talk, afterall, Barkley did the same thing before last year's game (sort of).

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  • FelixTheCat322 said...

    Honestly, time will have to tell with that one; after all, we're not in the weight room with him every day lol

    He's so tiny that I doubt it, though, and even then it's another matter entirely whether he'd learn to change his style at the next level; we saw how long it took Reggie to do exactly that.

    Total tangent here but he's such a good athlete pound for pound that I wonder how dominant he'd be in sports like boxing or soccer, where is body type would play better. Can only imagine him dancing around the ring, darting in and out of scrums or just tearing down the pitch as a striker. In that regard, he makes me think of an even smaller Allen Iverson (youtube his football highlights sometime, jawdropping stuff). And maybe like Iverson, he overcomes all of those size concerns to beat the odds and be a dominant player.

    I have my doubts though.

    So true about the Reggie comparison...I think Bush finally got the memo regarding touting that rock.

    As for the tangent...his explosiveness may serve him well in one of those sports, especially soccer! And as for Mr. Practice...yeah...seen his highlight film and they are absolutely amazing! Wasn't Iverson the number three ranked player coming out of high school as a senior...I know he was up there; Iverson was a phenomenal athlete and simply astonishing the things he was able to do at his size in the league...that was a bad dude!

    MdatrojaninE

  • Did you really expect some kind of honorable behavior from that little rat? Not me, it's why he went to that shit hole Eugene. He's gonna get his card fucking pulled when he comes down here.

    Joe_Jitsu

  • Does this remind anyone of MeSean Jackson?!
    Jackson was "Oh fer" vs SC
    DAT is well on his way to a "Oh fer" career vs SC as well!

    Keep talkin!

    Pitzrrr

  • Pitzrrr said...

    Does this remind anyone of MeSean Jackson?! Jackson was "Oh fer" vs SC DAT is well on his way to a "Oh fer" career vs SC as well!

    Keep talkin!

    I think MeAnthony will get a win in there.... I imagine he will have to stay with the floats all 4 years playing RB. Can't picture a scenario where a dude built like a kenyon cross country runner leaves early unless he switches to CB. Gives him one more chance than MeSean at least. Plus he will most likely be playing for a way better team than Jax.

    peace

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  • #2 and #9.... all that needs to be said about what's going to happen to the Ducks again

    USCoregonian

  • ProUSC said...

    I think MeAnthony will get a win in there.... I imagine he will have to stay with the floats all 4 years playing RB. Can't picture a scenario where a dude built like a kenyon cross country runner leaves early unless he switches to CB. Gives him one more chance than MeSean at least. Plus he will most likely be playing for a way better team than Jax.

    peace

    It will be tough for sure...If DaT wants a win against USC it will need to come this year which I believe to be a very tall order. Oregon/SC do not play in 2013 or 2014 except of course should they make the championship game against each other. Very possible, but not guaranteed on either end.

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  • 97duck said...

    fHell I bet if you asked Lane Kiffin he'd probably say,"I really wish it didn't happen the way it did. I really wish he would have given us the opportunity to communicate with him. But, he was young and high school kids make all sorts of unexpected decisions. I wish him the best, but I'll make sure he remembers his decision every Saturday we meet on the field."

    Uhm, I am pretty sure that is NOT what Lane would say.

    In fact, I am 100% certain that isn't what he would say

    A few months ago he said something to the effect of

    " I still don't know what happened, but would really love to find out'

    If you know anything about Lane Kiffin, that remark is startling on so many levels it isn't even funny

    I am fairly certain Lane knows exactly what happened

    He just can't come right out and say it

    So all I can say is that a kid who was a Lifelong Trojan, who was the biggest and most vocal recruiter USC had in that class, up to and including the second to last weekend before Signing Day, that decides to switch his commitment, on the sly, without giving the coaches he had been telling all along he was solid, the courtesy of a phone call, is either a calculating and duplicitous liar, or a very shrewd businessman.

    Or both

    I would have zero problem with any kid who just admits he is having second thoughts
    Like Derrick Henry did this week with UGA
    Or a kid that plays it close to the vest and drops a bombshell like Joe McKnight

    But this move was calculated, just like Mesaeans to prevent USC from going to plan B

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  • RSimmons said...

    Wait...DeAnthony Thomas actually got a sentence out without the word "Um" every other word? Let me fix this so DeAnthony can understand what he wrote himself.

    "IM UM NOY SAYING UM ANYTHING BUT WHEN UM THAT UM DAY COME UM UP O VS UM USC BEST BELIEVE UM IM UM GOING TO UM SHOW UP AND UM SHOW UM OUT. #UMREAL TALK UM THATS ALL I UM HAVE TO UM SAY."

    you knows +12 and counting, UO must of open up the equipment room and said take what you want kid ,b-cuz he sure did have it all on, like a young influential kid with a shopping spree at the nike store,but riddle me this Batman,when was oREGON ever 12-0? shouldnt they have sent those boxes of t-shirts to some 3rd world country already like the eventual superbowl losers t-shirts? just saying you know shrug

    This post was edited by trojanfolife on 6/14/2012 at 9:30 PM

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  • BlemBlam3 said...

    Uhm, I am pretty sure that is NOT what Lane would say.

    In fact, I am 100% certain that isn't what he would say

    A few months ago he said something to the effect of

    " I still don't know what happened, but would really love to find out'

    If you know anything about Lane Kiffin, that remark is startling on so many levels it isn't even funny

    I am fairly certain Lane knows exactly what happened

    He just can't come right out and say it

    So all I can say is that a kid who was a Lifelong Trojan, who was the biggest and most vocal recruiter USC had in that class, up to and including the second to last weekend before Signing Day, that decides to switch his commitment, on the sly, without giving the coaches he had been telling all along he was solid, the courtesy of a phone call, is either a calculating and duplicitous liar, or a very shrewd businessman.

    Or both

    I would have zero problem with any kid who just admits he is having second thoughts Like Derrick Henry did this week with UGA Or a kid that plays it close to the vest and drops a bombshell like Joe McKnight

    But this move was calculated, just like Mesaeans to prevent USC from going to plan B

    $$$$$$$

    TrojanMD126639

  • Kid's got some growing up to do. Bulletin board material shouldn't be given away for free. Does anyone remember Freddy Mitchell? Exactly...

    “Close tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share,” Reagan vowed.

    swr22

  • I liked this kid and I know he's a competitor. Everytime I would see his name, I would get disappointed that he's not in C&G. Yet it was his decision and we move on...now, I don't care so much about who we don't have, but rather who we do have...and who we have is one outstanding group of Trojans. As for his words or anyone's words for that matter...that's all it is...just words. Its not like we validate ourselves based on what other people say. Its more so about reality and actions. Sounds to me like he and whoever is posing a challenge with all the talk and blah blah...and I can't wait to see the C&G do the walk, while others talk.
    FIGHT ON!!!!!!!

    This post was edited by TrojanGold on 6/14/2012 at 11:21 PM

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  • trojanfolife said...
    UO must of open up the equipment room and said take what you want kid ,b-cuz he sure did have it all on, like a young influential kid with a shopping spree at the nike store,but riddle me this Batman,when was oREGON ever 12-0?

    Right before they were 12 - 1
    In 2010

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  • SylmarTrojan818 said...

    De'Anthony thomas twitter..

    ''IM NOT SAYING ANYTHING BUT WHEN THAT DAY COME UP O VS SC BEST BELIEVE IM GOING TO SHOW UP AND SHOW OUT #REAL TALK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY''

    He Re-tweeted this.

    ''@KINGMOMBA6 Matt Barkley dont get to throw against 2 freshman db's this year. @imoneymaknmitch will pick 6 that weak #GoDucks Retweeted by De'ANTHONY THOMAS

    Looks like the DATE Nov.3 is a trending topic already!

    ''IM NOT SAYING ANYTHING"

    Should have stopped there.

    brdcstr1

  • 97duck said...

    I disagree with your switching position statement...I can't imagine you or I would want to go to a school if they said,"well, we are gonna play you at corner and if we have room or something happens then we may switch you." Especially when he had any number of schools that would let him pick his position and start playing it immediately.

    If you're implying that USC told him he wouldn't be playing on offense, but rather, on defense as a CB... That myth has been debunked.

    There were a couple of articles in the LA Times last year in which both DAT and Kiffin were quoted as saying USC never asked him to switch to cornerback: Here is one response from DAT I could find.

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    Line them up. One theory after another.

    The Trojans supposedly asked him to switch to cornerback, a position he did not like. Thomas says: "Nope."

    Oregon Ducks' De'Anthony Thomas, former USC recruit - Los Angeles Times

    Reporting from Eugene, Ore. — It still mystifies De'Anthony Thomas, all those people talking about him, spreading rumors, devising theories about what happened. Nearly a year later, he throws his

    articles.latimes.com

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  • SylmarTrojan818 said...

    De'Anthony thomas twitter..

    ''IM NOT SAYING ANYTHING BUT WHEN THAT DAY COME UP O VS SC BEST BELIEVE IM GOING TO SHOW UP AND SHOW OUT #REAL TALK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY''

    He Re-tweeted this.

    ''@KINGMOMBA6 Matt Barkley dont get to throw against 2 freshman db's this year. @imoneymaknmitch will pick 6 that weak #GoDucks Retweeted by De'ANTHONY THOMAS

    Looks like the DATE Nov.3 is a trending topic already!

    The boldest part of De'Anthony's tweet is his attempt to predict the Ducks' active roster four months out--as if multiple O players won't be involved in some off the hook, stupid ass sheeeet between now and Nov. 3 that will lead to arrests and/or suspensions.

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