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If you don't know what you're talking about you shouldn't speak up. Miami did everything they could to get him in shape & to snap to. He's been suspended twice & demoted to back up duties. This off season he finally lost the weight & finally seems motivated to take the next step. He's missed the past few practices because of a death to a friend.

And BTW, Seantrel practiced with the team this morning.

Talking about The Present isn't cherry picking a time frame

You want to talk about Frank Gifford, Ron Yary and Marcus Allen, be my guest, but it has no relevence to my point about a CURRENT situation

I would rather tslk about Ray Lewis, Jimmy Graham and Vince Wifork

Or Ed Reed, Jon Vilma, Andre Johnson and Frank Gore

Look at the last ten Pro Bowls or any list if the Top 100 NFL players.
Go by position and see who's groups overall are better

We have them at QB and are maybe equal on the O Line but at most positions they blow us away

You can argue all you want, and I am sure you will, and we can go position by position, but you can present ZERO evidence to support the claim by Free Kobe that Miami only breaks players and doesn't make them.

They have more great players in the NFL than we do and it isn't even close and that doesn't take into account Sean Taylor who would be in the apex of a probable Hall of Fame career, and Brian Pata who would almost certainly have been no less than a third round choice

Which round was Jimmy Graham taken in? LOL

And you still have zero evidence that Seantrell Henderson would have had different results had he stayed at USC

And for you to bring up Brennan who was at USC for a nearly a decade and at Miami for two years is puzzling

He has the exact same job description at both schools, so exactly what is your point?

Given the antics and lack of success if Dillon Baxter, Markeith Ambles and Kyle Prater( no antics but almost zero development) I don't see how you can call out Miami and give USC a pass

Maybe Seantrel is simply an over rated, lazy ass pussy?

Also, the final chapter hasn't been written on him

There is still a very good chance things will click for him and he will be a Top 5 pick

Their dirtiest chapter is still under construction.

It was rhetorical
My point being that jyst becsuse they haven't had any first rounders does not
mean they haven't put any great players into the NFL

And could rival or surpass Penn St., too.

That is my point. Miami does.t develop players as well as this staff or sabans staff. I bring up Brennan cecause be was not a good coach. Look at how pc developed talent his last few years and it shows signs of a program declining in evaluation and development.

Lets dive into this Miami vs SC NFL thing shall we?

Nobody is to blame but Henderson himself but what happens if he is surrounded by players and O-Line friends going high in the draft? Maybe it would have been that extra motivation he needed.

Last 10 years O-Linemen draft in the TOP 2 ROUNDS:
-Miami 2 (1 2nd round pick in the last 8 years (ONE!!!!)
-USC 9 (back to back top 10 picks the last 2 years)
You dont think thats motivation for the kid? Seeing his OLine friends being picked in the top 10?

Lets look what Miami and USC have done OVERALL
Last 5 years, TOP 2 ROUNDS:
-Miami 4 (ZERO 1st rounders)
-USC 17
Im thinking being around and playing with greatness breeds greatness.

At USC he would have been around top picks, playing next to top picks on the Oline.

i do believe his chances of keeping it all together would have been better if he stayed at USC
(and im sure hes thought about that 3442358 times the past 12 months)

No it doesn't
He came there on a BB scholarship and played 1 year of football

Actually he doesn't really count for either position

Like Antonio Gates, he is just such a freakish athlete he could have just shown up in camp and made the team

Well, at least you have now reversed your position and say he doesn't prove your point.

Miami has not done a good job developing players for around 9 years. Coker and staff did a poor job. So did Shannon and staff. As I said, maybe Golden will do better.