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die yankees die said...
I appreciate your comments and take on the game. We've been debating over and over again ad nauseum all of these issues over on the duck board. Numbered lists seem to be en vogue, so,
1.) Bennett did have very few offensive weapons. Eric Dungy was his best receiver.
2.) I'm not willing to call Bennett's defense terrible. On paper before the game, we all expected Bennett's defense to be better. Did you see the play where Arik Armstead pushed his guy 6 feet into Mariota's backfield, causing the fumble? Good stuff.
3.) Good quarterbacks always make defenses look piss poor.
4.) Mariota is indeed the better runner.
5.) Everyone thinks, and you can see it in our WR's lingo, that Mariota is the superior passer. Bennett throws bullets. Everyone says they prefer Mariota's touch and accuracy better. When i say everyone, I mean a couple of guys on the team.
6.) Mariota is an absolute master of throwing on the run.
7.) Mariota remained cool as a cucumber. Very humble. Intangibles I believe is what they call them.
8.) We agree that Bennett didn't get a fair shake as his offense wasn't nearly as good as mariota's. He had kenjon barner, who ran one time. I believe he was also supposed to have Colt Lyerla, but we all know Lylerla didn't end up playing. Ergo, we all agree that Bennett didn't get a fair shake.
9.) 5 yard gain? I'd say USC gives Mariota a minimum 15 yard gain.
and finally,
9.) Bennett got rattled. That's it. We saw him get rattled.
edge goes Mariota. We think it's been a long time coming. Some of us. I can't speak for everyone. it's cool you watched our spring game. I wish i could watch all the pac's spring games.
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AbsenteeTrojan said...
Who was the OL involved in that play?
It's pretty well documented that Oregon has huge question marks on the OL. My guess is that Armstead pushed back one of your young, undersized, inexperienced OL.
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Trojani said...
So far I'm not terribly impressed [the whole game is watchable on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlxONoXQfbY&feature=related].
I watched every play until the late 4th quarter:
1) Mariota DOES distribute the ball properly on option plays - Oregon's running game will be just fine 2) Mariota's passes were to WIDE OPEN receivers; the Dark team's pass defense and pass rush were both absolutely pathetic 3) On the other hand, Bennet had to face a much better defense - Bennet was under pressure every single play and his O-line was utter shit - also his receivers were blanketed the whole game (Light team's pass defense was very good) 4) The most impressive drive of the game was in the 3rd quarter where Bennet's team scored. Under pressure, Bennet threw a 30 yard strike into triple coverage and completed the pass. 5) Mariota on the other hand (facing a pitiful defense) was able to lob lolly pop throws to wide open receivers - otherwise he threw passes to the flat (that's not special or impressive) 6) Finally, Mariota's long TD run. The kid has wheels that's for sure. But honestly, the Dark team appeared to be holding back as not to hurt the QB. SC would have had Mariota in the turf after a 5 yard gain at best
In summary, Bennet's team sucked major ass and he didn't get a fair shake. Mariota's team was much more talented.
IMO, Bennet and Mariota are equally good (Bennet is a better thrower and Mariota is a better runner). Both would be starters at every other PAC-12 team, spare USC and Washington, and perhaps Wazzu.
Comparing Mariota to Dixon is like comparing Dillon Baxter to Reggie Bush - Dixon was a beast and a very rare and special talent, and Mariota is just a young freshman who looked good against a pitiful defense.
Mariota has a lot of potential (speed and athleticism) but his passing is comparable to a good high school senior QB, which is essentially what he is.
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AbsenteeTrojan said...
OL for the ducks is definitely a weakness. Look at the pressure we got against them last year.
Fisher only started as a freshman because there was no one better. It's not like he beat anyone of substance to get that job.
And most are banking on a JUCO OL to start from day 1 at tackle spot. That's not a good thing.
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OL for the ducks is definitely a weakness. Look at the pressure we got against them last year.
Fisher only started as a freshman because there was no one better. It's not like he beat anyone of substance to get that job.
And most are banking on a JUCO OL to start from day 1 at tackle spot. That's not a good thing.
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ducklefty said...
I would flip flop this (and it's not very close IMO) otherwise I agree with much of what you said. Mariotta would not have gone 80 yards in a real game on that play as the safety let up.
We should be in good hands either way, but as you guys mention lack of experience will be a big factor. Especially when one enters the Coliseum without having faced a team half as good as you guys yet. Will be a reality check.
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Trojani said...
I'll take your word on it since you follow UO football a helluva lot more than I do.
I recall Bennet tearing up the poor Buffaloes last season... and despite how atrocious they were, they were at home and it wasn't two-hand-touch. I think Bennet's debut performance in a REAL game is more impressive than Mariota's debut performance in a scrimmage...
Either way I think UO will lack good QB play until late in the season, BUT (!) I expect your QBs to be playing some good football come time for the conference championship game (unless Washington somehow sneaks in).
Here's hoping for an exciting game (that SC wins)

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