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WarSC said...
Scott, do you think we bring two RB's this year? Justin Davis and Ty Issac have been offered and have shown strong interest.
IMHO the only way we take a 3rd RB is if he is a total difference maker, what are your thoughts on Craig Lee? Three RB in one class is asking for trouble (transfer issues/RB by committee)
Are there studs RB's out West in the 2014 class? I know Servite had a young stud Sophmore last yr that showed potential
Scott I appreciate your work and commitment to this site
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Obviously I'm not Scott, but I'd love to see SC get all three of Davis, Isaac and Lee for multiple reasons.
1. RB by committee's not a bad thing in my eyes. It's the way the game has evolved. No position takes more punishment and no position needs more depth. And given how thin SC is at RB right now, an infusion of 3 studs would be most welcome.
2. Having guys with different skill sets gives opposing Ds more problems. Change of pace from Big back to breakaway/ home run hitter is a good thing. Lee's speed in the open field would be an excellent weapon.
3. You never know who is going to get hit by an injury, (see Madden, Tre) or which highly touted recruit will wash out due to off-field issues (Baxter, Dillon) or who might transfer unexpectedly (Carlisle, Amir). In other words, even though a roster may look loaded, the depth can be quickly depleted over the course of a season.
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Moody is the only known quantity at RB at the moment.
When he graduates, SC will be looking at a RB roster consisting of:
a player coming off and ACL injury, a player who seems to have nagging injury issues and a player who has shown a propensity to fumble.
I'm not knocking any of these three guys. All three have had a bad break at some point (knee injuries) and any of them could turn out to be a star. But they also might turn out to be guys who just have bad luck with injuries (or fumbles).
I didn't use anyone's name because I wanted to emphasize objectivity. How would we look at SC's current RB depth behind Moody if it was another team's depth chart ?
Once Moody is gone, there will be a lot of questions at RB.
So I would have no problem adding three 2013 guys to that mix who could compete for PT as true freshmen.
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Having said all that, assuming SC gets both Davis and Isaac, I think it will come down to how Craig Lee performs in camp and what players (especially OOS guys) end up coming at other positions.
If SC gets guys like Adams, VH3, Johnson, Sherit (or another DE), Lacy (or Falah), then there simply might not be room for another RB, no matter how good he is.
But if Craig Lee blows the coaches away at camp, maybe he gets his offer and that's that.
I know I sound like a broken record on this, but I think it's important to have guys like Craig in the program, who are both athletically gifted but also are dying to be Trojans and have humble, hard-working attitudes. Guys who are willing to earn what they get and not expecting to have everything given to them.
Guys like that help immensely in every aspect of a program.
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Stellar post Traveler, and I agree wholeheartedly. Craig also provides a different dimension than JD and Isaac as a pure speed back; DJ Morgan is the only one who fits that description and we still have to see how he looks a full two seasons removed from that ACL tear (incidentally the same reason why nobody should be banking on Tre Madden as a huge contributor next year; that's a two-year recovery process).
If Craig merits the offer, then I think it would be a nice addition. At the same time, they shouldn't take three just to hit a numbers quota; carrying one fewer body is better than using a scholarship on a player who isn't SC caliber. Ultimately, the determining factor is probably Craig himself - if he puts on a show at the RSC, he probably can earn an offer regardless of if we land both of Davis and Isaac before then.
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Stellar post Traveler, and I agree wholeheartedly. Craig also provides a different dimension than JD and Isaac as a pure speed back; DJ Morgan is the only one who fits that description and we still have to see how he looks a full two seasons removed from that ACL tear (incidentally the same reason why nobody should be banking on Tre Madden as a huge contributor next year; that's a two-year recovery process).
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USCTraveler said...
Obviously I'm not Scott, but I'd love to see SC get all three of Davis, Isaac and Lee for multiple reasons.
1. RB by committee's not a bad thing in my eyes. It's the way the game has evolved. No position takes more punishment and no position needs more depth. And given how thin SC is at RB right now, an infusion of 3 studs would be most welcome.
2. Having guys with different skill sets gives opposing Ds more problems. Change of pace from Big back to breakaway/ home run hitter is a good thing. Lee's speed in the open field would be an excellent weapon.
3. You never know who is going to get hit by an injury, (see Madden, Tre) or which highly touted recruit will wash out due to off-field issues (Baxter, Dillon) or who might transfer unexpectedly (Carlisle, Amir). In other words, even though a roster may look loaded, the depth can be quickly depleted over the course of a season.
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Moody is the only known quantity at RB at the moment.
When he graduates, SC will be looking at a RB roster consisting of:
a player coming off and ACL injury, a player who seems to have nagging injury issues and a player who has shown a propensity to fumble.
I'm not knocking any of these three guys. All three have had a bad break at some point (knee injuries) and any of them could turn out to be a star. But they also might turn out to be guys who just have bad luck with injuries (or fumbles).
I didn't use anyone's name because I wanted to emphasize objectivity. How would we look at SC's current RB depth behind Moody if it was another team's depth chart ?
Once Moody is gone, there will be a lot of questions at RB.
So I would have no problem adding three 2013 guys to that mix who could compete for PT as true freshmen.
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Having said all that, assuming SC gets both Davis and Isaac, I think it will come down to how Craig Lee performs in camp and what players (especially OOS guys) end up coming at other positions.
If SC gets guys like Adams, VH3, Johnson, Sherit (or another DE), Lacy (or Falah), then there simply might not be room for another RB, no matter how good he is.
But if Craig Lee blows the coaches away at camp, maybe he gets his offer and that's that.
I know I sound like a broken record on this, but I think it's important to have guys like Craig in the program, who are both athletically gifted but also are dying to be Trojans and have humble, hard-working attitudes. Guys who are willing to earn what they get and not expecting to have everything given to them.
Guys like that help immensely in every aspect of a program.
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Is there room for three RB?