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about CLFK's play calling, and seem enamored with Oregon's, i found an interesting stat= yards per play. it's from the NCAA's website with the link below IF i can make it work. now looking at total offensive yards comparing CLK's past 3 years and PC's run, and it's pretty interesting but having a hard time with the link.
Last updated - January 14, 2013
Through games of January 8, 2013
Rank Team G Plays Tot Yds Tot Yds/Play TD Tot Yds/G
5 Oregon 13 1058 6986 6.60 89 537.38
41 USC 13 853 5628 6.60 56 432.92
View the Official Total Offense at NCAA.com
Personally I like LK but a my favorite stat is Yards Per Point (yppt). Look and compare. I like it cause it takes into account settling for TO, what you do in the redzone, efficiencies, field position. Very good stat for both sides of the ball
yeah butt.... if you have enuff Lee or Wood's 60 to 80 yard plays it will really screw that up. once most coaches get up by a big margin then will slow the game down quite a bitt which will also mess with the point/yards stat.
found a site that has the stats comparison from 01-10 then it stops. i need to find the last two years and fill in. link below.
i think the person that did some of this was a frequent poster here or TOS. not sure if it was NCAAAssassin or not.
Here is how the USC offense stacked up in 2010 compared to past Trojans teams since 2001. As shown here the USC offense in 2010 was off to a great start
My favorite stat is Points Per Offensive Possession. This past year, Alabama, Oregon, Texas A&M and Kansas St. were all in the top 5 in this stat with different offenses. USC was ranked about 50th due to turnovers, drive killing penalties and inability to sustain drives by converting on 3rd/4th downs.
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Well, my favorite stat is wins and loses. And we were not that good last year.
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Not going after you in particular Tahoe, as this is a common statement, but it really annoys me. Of course everyone's favorite/most important stat is wins.
How do you get more of that stat? By focusing on what your team is not good at, improving on it, as well as knowing what your team is good at, and enhancing that.
How do you determine what your team is good at and what it needs to improve on? Statistics. Offensive performance/efficiency and defensive performance/efficiency. How do you analyze those with any meaningful data (aside from the eyeball test of, well, such and such didn't look good on offense or defense or in that play or that play)? With statistics such as third down conversions, yards per play/possession/point, third down defense, 10+ and 20+ yard plays given up, etc. You really cannot know what to get good at and improve unless you know what you're weak at.
Of course statistics can be inflated, misconstrued, etc. But that's why you have to consider what factors are important (is yards per play a better value or yard per point?) as well as use one's own subjective analysis (by watching the games, teams, offenses/defenses, and players) to determine whether the statistics are accurate or outside the range.
Anyways, my main point is just that the statement "the only statistic that matters is wins" is such a simplistic, narrow-minded conversation killer that just doesn't mean anything in the end. Obviously wins are what matters. But how do you get there? Well, analyzing your team's statistics and improving in specific areas is certainly a start.
i think you misread the thread intro............. try again?
A six yard dump pass where Marqise Lee runs for a 60 yard YAC and a TD doesn't prove squat about innovative or solid play calling.
Do you guys work for Pixar?
I would also like to note that Oregon tends to be a run first and pass second team (read option, read option, go for the kill via a play action pass)
Whereas we pass first to set up the run.
Universally passing plays yield more yards than running plays. And even then we're just on par with Oregon in terms of yards/per play.
yeah, when Reggie would break a long one or that 4th and 9 play had nuthin to do with innovative or solid play calling, it was just luck or the skill of the players in spite of the coaching, RIGHT?
Stop making sense and play fair!
Yards per play was impressive. 3rd down efficiency was horrible. Penalties and turnovers were two big negatives, as well. It was an offense that could move the ball but then shoot itself in the foot with the best of them. This is what will need to change in 2013 if we expect better results. Of course, we'll have a new QB at the helm, and it's hard to say how much leeway he'll be given. Things might tilt pretty conservative with him in mind.
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Skill of the players >>> coaches in those cases.
Reggie was a money maker on a lot of outside run plays. Any coach with a headphone could have called it and taken credit.
Also, wasn't Leinart the one who made the audible to Jarrett on the 4th and 9 play cause he saw a favorable coverage?
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I was at the Arizona game this year and despite all of the offensive firepower that Barkley and Lee exhibited, it was penalties and turnovers that lost the game. Penalties but the team behind early and squandered many chances at scoring. Turnovers stopped us dead in our tracks as we were about to take control of the game. The same thing happened, now that I think of it, during the Arizona State game in 2011. Kiffin tried to address the penalties but he made an interesting observation - its difficult to punish a kid by putting him on the bench for committing a penalty when there isn't much depth behind him. Maybe he should have bit the bullet and put in a lesser quality player every time a starter commits a personal foul - I don't know; its an interesting problem. But it seemed to get better during the last third of the season. With a new QB, we can't afford big penalties on the offensive side and those RB's better hold onto the ball. If not, it will be a long season.
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Is that supposed to be sarcastic? Cause the sentence before the "RIGHT?" was quite accurate. You can give the coaches credit for coaching up the players well to be able to know how to make those plays and be able to execute them, but it doesn't have as much to do with playcalling.
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