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Or simply replace position coaches?
If the former, who do you want?
Jeff Tedford, crappy head coach, great coordinator. With him, USC will also certainly return to pounding the rock inside.
I'm thinking moving Helton to OC wouldn't suck if Lane lets him call plays.
I say no on Tedford. Cal ranked 94th in the country last year in points per game and like 73rd in yards a game. We finished like 34th in points and like 29th or so in yards. If Tedford was as good as what people make him out to be, he should have been able to get more out of his offense, even with the lack of talent they have.
In fairness to Tedford, Zach Maynard is probably the worst PAC 12 QB I've seen in a long time. Not trying to champion him as an offensive mastermind, but he had productive offenses with Boller, Rodgers, Marshawn, MeSean, etc. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing what he could do here with more talent than he's ever had at his disposal
Edit: forgot to add the fact that he's put tons of RBs in the league. Forsett, best, lynch, vereen, Arrington. Pretty much every starting back Tedford has had got drafted early and has been successful in the NFL. Not sure if someone else in the staff deserves more credit for that or not, but just stating the facts
This post was edited by WCTrojan 14 months ago
Then what does it say about Tedford for sticking with Maynard? If you're having trouble moving the ball downfield, you have to make some change. We bitched about that a lot this year with Kiffin, especially during the sun bowl. We couldnt finish a lot of drives, whether due to penalties or just unable to convert on 3rd downs.
There are a lot of coaches out there who have done great with first round playmakers. To me, the difference between an average and good coordinator is being able to move the ball without great playmakers at those important skill positions.
So Cal has been the laughing stock of the Pac12 for years and you think we should have their former coaches be our DC and OC?
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do you really think that CLK will give Tedford the keys?
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That's all right. Everyone said no to Pete Carroll too ... even began a big email/fax campaign to try and undo the hire.
Wade Phillips was the laughing stock of the league when he was the head coach at Dallas, now he's one of the best DCs in the league at Houston. How someone performs as a coordinator is not the same as how they performed as a head coach.
Tedford has a similar demeanor to Kiffin... relaxed, very composed, even-keel.. Cal appears to play with little fire. In fact, they have been known to literally lay down on the field at times. He doesn't seem to make adjustments or improve as the season goes on. In fact, Cal notoriously tanks in the second half of the year.
Much of this may sound familiar to what we experienced last year, so I don't see it as the change the program needs.
...and if you remember Tedford was the play caller some of those seasons at Cal... post Rodgers, they sucked.
Lots of guys were great DC and OCs but were complete duds or at best mediocre Head Coaches
Dave Wannstadt and Norv Turner for instance
Norv was out of work for five minutes after San Diego
Heck, we may be saying the same thing about Lane in 20 years
I'm optimistic about tedford as a QBcoach/Playcaller. Got it done as fresno st.
Wouldn't that success be more a result of his running backs coach? Whomever that is, if he were brought on board, then I would expect more improvement in the running game.
We should also be careful about focusing too much on Tedford's teams and where they ranked in relation to 'SC, statistically. Cal, overall has less talented kids than USC does. Tedford (if he signs on with 'SC) and Clancey will have traded in their Clydesdales for a thoroughbred. And Kiffin has nothing to lose (except his job) by seeing what his mentor and a new defensive scheme can do for the Trojans.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by oldtrojan 93 14 months ago
Ron Gould? He just got hired as head coach at U.C. Davis and wife still works at Kal. He's not leaving the Bay.
UGH with Tedford! Doesn't ANYONE besides me think the college game has slightly passed him by a little! COME ON!
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F*cking A. Didn't Tedford's AWESOME offense put single digits on us the last few years? Guy freakin' sucks!
IMHO, the problems this past year had little to do with playcalling and scheme, and more to do with preparing a team to play football. OC's like Chow and Weis (and Kiffin?) found success when someone else was responsible for putting a mentally, physically and emotionally ready football team on the field. They struggle when that responsibility is theirs because that is not their strength.
That's why I like a coach like Tedford who can come in as an OC/Head Coach/Mentor. He fills more needs than scheme/playcaller and he is senior enough to have Kiffin's respect.
Winning winners who win > whining whiners who whine.
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