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This is like your hot ex-girlfriend telling you she is still in love with you on her wedding day....why did he have to say he was going to be a Trojan?!
I read on TOS the following quote (note, it was not behind a subscription wall):
"We reached out to a source close to the recruitment of Thomas earlier this week, and was informed per the source that shortly after signing his Letter of Intent with Florida State, Thomas actually contacted USC coaches and asked how he could get out of the binding of the LOI."
Could he be another Josh Shaw guy (although in a kind of opposite scenario)? Maybe he transfers following the 2013 season, Red-shirts in 2014 and we have a stud in 2015 ready to rip heads off? Here's to wishful thinking!
Yes, this issue only applies to kids under 18 (though I imagine parental pressure could make things very uncomfortable for 18 year olds too).
maybe if matthew thomas cared enough he could have waited until he was 18 yrs old to sign with usc
What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome.--Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
If I remember correctly it's actually all athlete's under 21 not 18.
I think you're correct. It was mentioned in the discussion of that Arkansas recruit whose mom stole his LOI.
He is going to keep trying to convince himself he made the right decision. But deep down he knows he did not, but what sucks is its not is fault.
JN: So if your mom would have signed the papers you'd be a Trojan right now?
MT: Yeah, I would have been a Trojan
That right there speaks VOLUMES
This post was edited by DJ123826 14 months ago
Really? How odd. If 18 is a legal adult (I could write my own high school excuse notes at 18, since I was legally an adult) what standing do they have to make it be 21?
But that's the thing, it wasn't his decision. He has nothing to convince himself of. He signed the papers. His mother refused.
Deep down he may always resent his mother. That's her burden to bear. Fact is, he wouldn't be speaking out now if he didn't resent her on some level.
Many a mother has influenced her son's decision, and many a son has gone where his mother preferred even if he would have chosen elsewhere. Very few actually come straight out and say it. There are ways to be diplomatic about it. "I wanted to be close to home." "My family means a lot to me." There are code words all over the place indicating these situations.
His candor tells me that he absolutely doesn't want to be heading to FSU. He'll make the most of it, but he doesn't want to be there.
This post was edited by PenguinDeTroy 14 months ago
It's right here on the NCAA website, that a parent/legal guardian has to sign LOI if kid is under age 21:
Either this website doesn't exist or is not currently available.
This post was edited by JCakus 14 months ago
why would the ncaa put in such a rule? why does this only apply to athletes, but non-athletes can go wherever they want?
When has the NCAA ever done ANYTHING that makes sense???
Fight On! Wish you could have lived the Trojan dream...
I'll be rooting for ya.
We should have offered and made a run at Denver Kirkland
That would have helped with Thomas but more importantly his family if he had someone they knew here in LA
Thats one package deal IMO that would be worth taking
This post was edited by FightOn714 14 months ago
"If this was a prize fight they'd call it off"- F ND!
I'm reminded of when my daughters and I went to freshman orientation at USC. I went to a seminar given by the health center titled "separation anxiety" or some such. I knew something weird was up when I walked into the classroom and there were boxes of cleanex distributed every fifth seat. The moderator began talking about the emotions of parents when their children leave for college. The conversation was immediately taken over by many of the mothers present, launching into terribly emotional crying fits about just the thought of their children leaving the house. And many of these mothers were from the Valley! Nearly every woman was in tears by the end. Most of the fathers appeared surprised/horrified by the spectacle. So bottom line is that I can understand what might have happened with Mrs. Thomas. I don't agree with her decision, but I can understand how it could happen.
I believe we did offer Denver Kirkland...
According to this site, we did.
KEY: Those mothers let their kids make their own decision. You can cry, feel heartbroken...but you let them have their happiness and choice.
"Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy." Virgil
It's even better than that. If you're not 21, EVEN IF YOU ARE MARRIED, you still need parent's consent.
Cry Havoc; and let slip the dogs of war!
THIS! I agree wholeheartedly.
For Matthew to admit he would have been a Trojan if not for his mom...after he signed his LOI, speaks volumes.
Wow, if mom is not happy, too bad if her boy isn't.
This post was edited by usctrojan1 14 months ago
I wonder what the past couple weeks would have been like had he faxed in his apparently signed LOI to USC.
Would the recruiting class that some seem to think was such a disappointment have been viewed differently? We would be adding a "5 star" at a position of need with the new defensive schemes going to be employed. If you are caught up in the ranking, I am sure our ranking would have probably jumped a few spots where it wouldn't be (paraphrase) "on the verge of falling out of the top 20".
It seems clear that the lack of a LB coach had nothing to do with Thomas's "decision" to not come to USC and I am pretty sure that failing of CLK was brought up here. We would have had 2 "new" LB's committing to us without their prospective position coach in place.
The out of state recruiting strategy would not seem as dire as some here have taken it to be.
From the interview, it appears that CLK had every reason to believe Thomas was signing with USC. I am thinking that, while 14 is still not 18, it is better than 13.
Nothing about the Thomas situation has any bearing on the perception of coaching instability with respect to CKP's departure but my point is that everything these past couple weeks has steamrolled basically from NSD. What would it have been like if just this one signing had happened?
So you can die for your country at 18 but you can't sign an LOI?
My wife already told me,our daughter can go to whatever school she wants but we are moving with her. Happy wife happy life I guess.
Thank god that's a ways away...maybe I can talk her out of it.
I'm sure your daughter will be THRILLED with this.
Is this more of a cultural thing?
Do people in the South have more of an a "stay-near home" mindset?
My wife is from Louisiana and her two sisters live near their parents. Her cousins also live within a stone's throw of their parents too.
It sure seems like it's hard as hell to pry a kid out of the South.
On the flip side, I grew up in Cali and joined the military right out of HS and moved to Florida and Massachusetts for two years. My father didn't say one word about me leaving home. Heck, even when I was 400 miles away at USC, he didn't cry about me being far away.
There is a culture down there...for decades - half a century, they were isolated in segregation...literally, with the rest of the country looking down on them. It's really to involved and deep to get into here, so I won't.
With many of the Black kids in the South...up until the early 70s, their athletes were forced to leave the South to play FB..now that they can stay at home, of course, they wish to do so..no longer forced to leave home and family to play.
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