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I saw this on TOS-R. Dont know how reliable it is but I thought it was interesting the people they had as candidates for the new OC.
Would like to hear everyone's opinion....
This post was edited by Scott Schrader 14 months ago
I feel unabashedly underwhelmed.
Half the guys on that list have never called plays before. Should have kept KP if you were going in that direction.
I think the hire depends on how much time Kiffin thinks he has as head coach. Is there really a secret mandate for 10 wins and to get his head out from behind the play sheet? If so, the no brainer is Tedford.
In-house, I think the odds on favorite goes to Helton - obviously.
Lane's also had a man-crush on Bieniemy for a looooong time.
Mike Sanford would be a tough get--he's another up and comer for the Cardinal, and Shaw has built some strong loyalties up on the Farm, especially after Pep Hamilton left for Indy. Sanford was assisting Bloomgren with the RBs while Bloomgren was their "running game coordinator" before being elevated to OC.
I'm most interested to learn if the OC will also coach the RBs, or if that hire will be made BY the OC himself, or a tag-team of sorts moving forward. One of the lynch pins IMO, will be what move if any, is made with Cregg.
Eric Bieniemy? I doubt it since he was just hired by the Chiefs and has no ties to SC that I've heard about other than being from the area.
Steeler's qb coach is very interesting.
Look at house pass-oriented their offense has become and how prepared every backup is (with all the injuries Big Ben has had). I don't know much about him, and I'm admittedly a Steelers fan, but idk, sounds good to me.
Would be nice to have the Groh kid. He has great roots down south and is an up and comer in the his field. Although he coaches WR he was a QB> Put helton back coaching the RB's and then hire an OL coach and Groh could be OC/QB coach..
Kiffin tried to hire him to replace Mcnair. I know they tried to use the talent angle with Colorado but Bieniemy sucked as a play caller withe Buffs. Horrible.
I can't think of anyone on that list that I'd want over KP except maybe Tedford, but even that's a stretch
If that's the list ill stick with LK.
Alrhough I think Tedford would be a good addition to the staff, no matter what his title is
Tedford restructured his contract with cal to allow him to work some where else without lossing money. It was announced on the 4th, which is probably the same day coach P was told he wouldn't be coming back next year. Lists on who will be the next OC are fun, but tedford is a lock as our next OC. I think he was the plan all along but just needed to finalize his cal departure first.
This post was edited by Fighton13 14 months ago
because you did not hear their name on sports center?
or did you base your wisdom on hours of study on the interviews you had with them and conversations with their employers.....
you go ray!!
Probably because most of these guys have never done any playcalling before. More guys learning on the job!
This just seemed like the most logical choice from Kiffin's standpoint if he is really under mandate to win at least 10 games. It makes sense for Tedford because he needs success somewhere else to land another GOOD HC job. I don't think he wants to take over Northern Arizona or UNLV. I would be shocked if his deal with SC isn't 7 figures.
I agree. Think he and LK would be on the same page as of what to expect out of the offense. You know better than I do of certain relationships but this one has to be pretty special for both parties.
Or cause I attend book clubs with their moms.
P.S. I have to say... you have some of the most incoherent and incohesive posts on this board. English not your first language? Seems like even the OT sage, BD, writes with more fluidity than you do.
The major questions I would have with Tedford:
1. His offense hasn't been good for several seasons. Has the game passed him by?
2. His offense is said to be very complex. The last thing our players need is another 2 phone books stacked on top of each other thick play book.
Bears quarterback Zach Maynard appears to have regressed in one-sided losses to Oregon and USC, but several former quarterbacks say Maynard should in time be able to master his coachs sophisticated system.
Number 2 is my biggest hesitation about Tedford which I spoke about in another thread.
A number of Cal premium subscribers I talk to (and even players in the media) have expressed this grievance consistently for the past 2-3 years. I'm ok if Tedford comes in and makes the slight tweaks needed to get LK's current system moving along more smoothly. I'm NOT ok if he comes in and tries to overhaul the whole thing as we already had enough instances last year where players were confused, lining up wrong, and being forced to burn unnecessary timeouts as a result.
If tedford comes in I think he adds a few plays but the offensive system remains the same. The timing of everything points to tedford and he and lane go way back. There is definitely a level of trust and respect there. Tedford did call plays and worked with a few pro qbs at Fresno st. He didn't forget how to coach but a coach's message can get old after so long. Even Pete's voice started to fade at the end. I think tedford working with qbs (Barkley regressed, wittek was not his best in the bowl game) and calling plays would work. Helton could move to coach RBs which he has before and lane is looking to hire an Oline coach with Gregg moving to coach TEs. I think tee gets a bump in pay, tedford gets a big chunk of monte's salary and lane has to also hire a LB coach. Pola may have been a very unfortunate sacrifice for lane to get some he trust to call plays. Along the same lines pendergrast will get a chunk of sander's money along with his DC salary. This is all speculation of course. Most wanted Monte gone - Lane let his dad go. The Oline sucked - there will be a new Oline coach. Everyone wanted Lane to drop the Denny's menu and that may happen. While the timing of coaching hires/fires have been poor it seems Lane is willing to make a lot of changes and tough sacrifices, including saying bye to his pops and giving up play calling, to save the program and his job for that matter. I hope he does it. Yes he a young coach still learning but the NCAA didn't help and he didn't bail. Instead he tried to figure out a plan that would allow SC to remain competitive at a high level when many said there would be no way to do so.
Many want lane gone and he clearly knows this is his last stand. But be careful what you wish for you just might get it.
That list is about what I expect under present leadership. No surprises there.
Edit: Except for LSU's running back coach. Mama like. For RUNNING BACK coach, not OC. Someone with consistently good results calling plays would be nice.
This post was edited by SpiritofTroy74 14 months ago
Join the fight for YOUR liberty!
A blood relative of Kevin Riley told me that Tedford started "losing it" or losing the team by trying to challenge guys with "You think you're so good? You're shit!" type of motivation. I guess it works for some, but it takes a certain personality to respond to that. I know I've been a supporter of having him here (at least for this year), but I wanted to share that. I also spent 5 hours on the golf course with a Kal starter in 2005 who thought Tedford was the Second Coming. I guess you just don't know what you get until you get it.
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