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Like I said before..... they played in the ACC (horrible conference) Hopkins did not have the same year as Lee, Lee had 6 more touchdowns than Hopkins and almost 300 more recieving yards with one more catch than Hopkins....Dwayne Allen...the best TE in the country?.....Child Please!
Marquise had Woody, a Biletnikoff runner up, on the other side....
Lee > Watkins...
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"It's what a brother would do for another brother"
DeAnthony is a special player. No one is questioning that. Saying that he is always the best player on the field is silly. Every team in this conference has at least one skill guy that could be the best player on the field at any given for time. it's the highest level of college football.
very close to it
Reggie Bush is a once in a generation player, someone who could and would have succeeded anywhere, no matter the circumstances.
DeAnthony Thomas is a very, very good player who plays in a system that makes him special. He could be an elte cornerback anywhere but on offense, he needs Oregon's system as much as it needs him. No chance in hell he could touch the ball 20 times per game in our system and made it through the season whole.
Close to what? Dude is a fumble machine. Nowhere near the overall football player that Marqise is
I am not arguing one way or another, but the majority of CFB fans outside of Los Angeles would say the opposite. You are definitely not giving Watkins his due; regardless of what conference he plays in the, the kid can play.
He can, but he isn't better than Lee, and the majority CFB fans outside of Los Angeles also think we deserved what we got in sanctions...doesn't make them right....just saying
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I think the same reason why USC's receiving corps is much better than Clemson's doubles as why it's tough to truly assess it.
Watkins was far and away Clemson's biggest pass catching threat on offense, the guy that everyone game planned to stop. Marqise was the second best receiver on his own team this past year, and had much easier coverage accordingly. Completely impossible to say what would have happened if their situations were reversed, and Watkins was playing opposite Woods and Lee was the man in Clemson. On one hand, Sammy got a lot more opportunities; on the other, he also had the burden of much tougher coverages.
Too soon to tell either way, IMO, but both are superstars in the making.
We'll see I guess. I think Lee is better for USC and DAT is better for Oregon. I think they'll both have incredible careers. DAT is definitely near the overall player that Lee is
All of De'Anthony's best plays from the 2011 season including the 2012 Rose Bowl.
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Well, DAT at #4 or #5 implies a minimum of 3 ahead of him (he didn't say DAT would be #6):
I mostly agree with the other parts of your post... but the fact is that Dwayne Allen is the arguably the best receiving TE in the country. He'll probably be the first TE drafted, and the only other TE that has a chance to jump him (in my opinion) is Fleener out of Stanford.
I guess the Float writer forgot to watch the LSU game. Not only were DAT's fumbles a killer for the floats, but that ignores guys like Honey Badger, Rueben Randle and the LSU RBs.
And in the deranged float fan mind, I guess he'd have been better than any of the studs on Bama's defense if they had played each other ?
What a joke.
And I agree about vs SC- he'd be about the 4th best player.
I think he is definitely a talent and would have loved to have seen him running back kicks and catching passes out of the backfield for SC.
But he is a situational player, as I don't think he is durable enough to be able to handle enough touches that would allow him to dominate game in and game out the way a guy like Barry Sanders did. He was a one-man wrecking crew. DAT is an explosive change-of-pace.
It will be interesting to see this year how he holds up as they increase his workload.
I think Clemson was overhyped by the media all year....these players are good, but the hype gave them the status of all world....I don't buy it. DA was the 2011 Mackey award winner, much of that was because of the hype of Clemson. I believe Fleener who had more yards and touchdowns with less catches (20) is better than DA, and I think our young TE's are just as good as DA....jmo
I guess the NFL Draft will answer the question for us. I sure hope our TEs are first-round types when they leave school... And they seem to have the potential, but they still have a lot of work to do before they can enter that conversation.
Fair enough :-)
Yeah I guess Oregon's "system" helped the kid return all those punts and kickoffs to.The kid's a blur out there and will juke your sock's off.DAT is a freaking beast period.The only thing Lee does better than DAT is going up and getting the football.Other than that,he does nothing better than DAT.Oh I forgot Lee also fights for yardage better but hey DAT's to busy not getting caught to fight for yardage.No need to hate on the kid because he chose to play for the Fuck's.
This post was edited by usctrojanglory 2 years ago
He's a gimmick player playing in a gimmick system. Congrats to him
Lee> Fumble Machine
You're not actually trying to say that DAT is a better WR, are you?
The only routes that DAT runs are slants and outs. Not impressed.
Who's hating!? Most here believe Lee is better than DAT (me included) No one is hating.
What I'm telling you is DAT is a better player period and that's no slight on Lee.I don't like what went down with his recruitment but I'm no fool either.
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Where did I say he wasn't an impressive football player? My point is that if he was carrying the ball 15-20 times in a game running in a pro set, he would take too much of a pounding to be that impact weapon here; there's a reason he never made it through a season of HS ball without an injury. 5'8'' 170 pounders don't tend to be those types of players.
I don't think he's a once in a generation talent because those are the guys who would succeed anywhere at an All-American level regardless of system, and I don't think that applies to him. That doesn't mean I don't respect his talent on the football field or think he's really talented, and that's coming from someone who absolutely can't stand the way he handled his recruitment.
He could have done the samething at SC that he is doing at Oregon imo.He doesn't need to touch the ball 20 times to have a huge impact on the game.If he get's the slightest opening,he will house it.
On a single play DAT is the most dangerous player in all of college football. However it depends on what you value. It have a hard time saying a guy is the best player on the field when he only gets the ball 5 times a game. Until he adds some weight, I dont believe it.
Do not be surprised if when he gets the ball more he suffers some injuries that come with getting hit.
Winning the academic award in the SEC is sort of like winning the special olympics. Even if you win, you are still a retard.
Please, DAT takes up 2 spots as the number one player on the field as K/P returner and as hb/wr. You can put Barkley, Woods and Lee at 3, 4 and 5 in no particular order.
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