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What does the future hold for George, & what would be the best way to get an ELITE athlete like him on the field??? When we signed George, most envisioned him becomung what LEE is today. If were being realistic, next year he is the #4WR, or #3WR if Woods leaves. While nothing is set in stone, Agholor seems to have passed George up, & proved it on the field. Is George content being the 3/4 WR in our offense, with few balls thrown his way? I would guess no. A move to CB? Hes a Patrick Peterson type of athlete, & if he learns it quick he could compete for a starting spot. Safety, which he played in HS & was pretty good at it. Could compete for a starting spot as we lose TJ/Starling. HBack?? Line him up in the backfield, just get him tha ball whether passes or runs. I know a HUGE part of him seeing the field depends on his health. He seems like a.GREAT kid, hope he can turn his career around. With the type of Athlete he is, why doesnt he get a shot at Punt/Kickoff return?? Hope he has a great spring, and EARNS himself a good role next year.
Move him to safety for god sakes. A five-star recruit riding the bench isn't doing any good.
Should have redshirted this year. No clue why they kept him active just for 2-3 player per game if that.
It puzzles me how we used him this year. I'm not talking about the fact that he's the number four receiver. If Agholor has indeed proven himself to be better, then that's fine. But the fact that we ran the ball almost every time George subbed in (it became an inside joke between my friends and I as we watched the game, and there were very few times where we were wrong) just seems stupid and not to mention predictable. If my friends and I noticed this, do you not think opposing defensive coordinators and coaches did as well? We needed to get receivers (including Woods) other than Lee more involved this past year, and we need to do it next year as well. That includes the tight ends. It would help Lee IMO, as he wouldn't be asked to do so much, and we would reduce turnovers caused by forcing the ball when we shouldn't, giving us more plays to work with. We utilized Farmer more as a true freshman than we did this year
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Said it earlier this season to Ruffalo. Think about it... Nelson and Lee next season with Woods possibly back in the mix.
So it's probable that Farmar will not make an impact/see the field before his senior year. And that is if there is not another WR stud to come in between now and then to push him for playing time. Pretty crazy when you think he may be a nonfactor until his senior season.
He should at the very least be able to contribute as a KR/PR. He must not be fully healthy or something.. Or maybe he's just never gonna live up to his five stars
I just really hope he sticks around, I know he's gotta be frustrated.
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This has been the biggest disappointment for me the past two years player wise. He should have been a RS Freshman this year and yet he's headed into his JR year with nothing to show for his first two years at SC. I was only able to attend two home games this year but I watched him go thru warmups each game and he looked ready and able each game. Punt return or kick off return should have been givens with his talent.
Marquise Lee, Nelson Agholor, and Robert Woods happened to Geroge Farmer. It's not like he's playing behind a bunch of no-bodies. Being, say, the 10th best WR in the country still might no the good enough to be on the top 3 of this roster.
Cry Havoc; and let slip the dogs of war!
GET GEORGE THE BALL
He doesn't have the hips and cuts to be a defensive back. He would make one hell of a free safety he can cover alot of field with his speed. His unique size and speed should not be wasted. But that's the difference between the PAC & SEC the best players don't mind playing on the defensive side of the ball. Everyone can't be Reggie bush or Calvin Johnson .
However, an innovative coach would find a way to get all 4 on the field instead of a FB who can't catch in obvious passing situations.
No excuse for not FINDING a way to get him the ball in some package(s).
Do you honestly believe guys like Chip Kelly wouldn't find a way to get him the ball...even if he wasn't a starter? Cripes, man...Chip plugged Colt Lyerla into a FB role in their jumbo red-zone packages....and let him run. Guy was a freakin' load to bring down.
For George's sake, I hope he transfers and takes his chances elsewhere. Sometimes coaches typecast you, which makes it nearly impossible to break the mold... Especially when they don't practice at full speed.
When exactly does George have an opportunity to prove himself under the current set up, if not during games?
Robert Woods barely practices and he plays he games. I know injuries have stopped George Farmer from playing, but Lane Kiffin needs to use his wide receivers. Players like George Farmer, Victor Blackwell, DeVon Flourney, and Nelson Agholor need to play more. They should not be used only for run blocks. Lane Kiffin should have redshirted George Farmer.
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And all of this analysis is based on WHAT? Have you guys seen GF play in practice? Can you certify that he knows the playbook? How about his downfield Blocking? The truth is none of you know WTF you're talking about.
You're looking at a star rating projection from HS and therefore ASSUMING he NEEDS the ball. Now, maybe you're right or maybe you're wrong but my point is none of you have any recent facts or data to back up your bitching. You have NO CLUE how good Farmer really is or isn't because you can't watch practice and yet here you all are - making demands to the internet forum gods as if you were certain GF is an all american being benched by evil Kiffin who secretly wants to lose.
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why we have to read a new George Farmer thread every 5 days.
It's because he was a 5 star and beat DAT in a track race. Phear_SC is 100% correct.
Kelly also couldn't get the ball into the hands of Devon Blackmon and Tacoi Sumler, probably the two fastest guys at Oregon not named De'Anthony. Both have now transferred. Outside of his size and speed, what exactly do we know about Farmer?
With the way Barks was keying in on Lee this year I say better off letting him get healthy. Lee farmer and Nelson holy hell!!
He's 6'2" and 205 lbs. and seems to do well enough in garbage time to suggest that he knows enough to warrant him a shot on the field regularly until he proves otherwise. Let the kid have a shot to prove himsel before he is deemed irrelevant. I agree with most: a good coach finds a way to use this freakish mismatch against opponents. He is a clear mismatch for opposing corners an defenses every time he's on he field. Unless GF has his hands literally up his $@! during the play, he an probably follow simple instructions: "run here, turn, catch the leather object coming at you, and then run more."
It is just plain irrationality to not get this man the ball. Anyone who coaches puts this kid all over and forces opponents to account for him, while also trying to contain Wood, Lee, and Agholor. It should not be an either-or thing with GF. It should be a both-and.
He has 5 catches in 2 seasons, what is this garbage time production you speak of? Shouldn't the same thing be said about Victor Blackwell, another decent sized kid with wheels who was a high school all-american? Heard the same thing about Prater, who is now a non-contributer at Northwestern. Farmer didn't beat out a true freshman, who is smaller and slower, for the 3rd spot.
Some guys don't live up to the hype. SO FAR, Farmer is one of those guys.
What did we see of McNeal before he was given his chance? What did we see of Agholor before he exploded against Oregon?
We can base some of our expectations on Farmer based on what Kiffin said last year - unless you believe he was full of it. Can't remember the exact phrase, but he said he didn't expect Farmer to be at SC for 5 years. He was good enough to remove a RS and play at RB with just a week of practice.
Farmer isn't a track guy playing football either. Based on how he dominated in HS, dominated at football camps and others from Serra (Woods, Lee, Richardson) have all produced, it is reasonable to think he will produce at this level.
Bottom line is Farmer has 10.4 speed at his size and should be utilized in some way.
What 'analysis' was offered?
While you asked the question about whether any of us have seen GF in practice, you conveniently glossed over my question:
If the team has a no tackling policy, just when does a player have the ability to demonstrate his entire skill set against live competition?
While you hang onto the assumption that he hasn't earned PT because of his practice habits, I'm just curious how a person earns PT under the current set up?
And, oh... You don't have to read a new George Farmer thread every five days. You're certainly free to not open, read, and engage on a topic that apparently causes much distress to you.
Apples and oranges. These guys were practicing against live competition on a regular basis.
In a roundabout way you made my point for me, though. Before transferring to Baylor, Chip had Lache Seastrunk at either 4 or 5 on the depth chart.
Does anybody in their right mind who knows a lick about football believe there were three better backups on the Oregon squad than a guy who went on to gain 874 yards this season for a 7.6 ypc avg with Baylor?
And yet... Chip had him #4/5 on the depth chart, based solely upon his practice performance.
Moral of the story is that, yes, coaches do make mistakes and their evaluations aren't infallible.
You were taking a pot shot at Kiffin and his staff by stating Kelly would find a way to use him. Kelly didn't find a way to use Seastrunk, Blackmon, and Sumler, what exactly is this point you were trying to make that I made for you?
I tend to think Kiffin is probably a better coach than anybody posting in this thread and knows far more about Farmer as a football player, I also doubt there is some conspiracy to keep Farmer from succeeding....or maybe us Bruins just want to keep Kiffin around?
um, Seastrunk and Sumler got the RS in their one and only season at UO, which probably explains Chip not finding a way to get them on the field.
1) In spite of a coach's evaluation of a player - based SOLELY upon practice - Chip missed on Seastrunk, as evidenced by him being named 4/5 on their depth chart but going on to be a stud at Baylor.
And yes, Chip also knows more about coaching than any of us...but was his analysis of Seastrunks ability completely accurate when burying him that deep on the depth chart?
2 Conspiracy, no. However, as someone else mentioned, when he burned GF's RS last year against Cal, he downplayed it by stating GF wouldn't likely be at USC for all 5 years anyway.
Well, what is it? A guy so talented that he's off to the NFL within 4 years, or a guy not talented enough to get on the field after 2 full years?
Was his evaluation of GF before making that comment accurate...or his evaluation after, when not finding a way to get him on the field?
Same coach, yet very different actions from the previous words.
I understand GF has been nicked up...but he hasn't been injured the entire time, either
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