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``It's more fun to have a 50-0 game but that doesn't happen every week. Some games will be like this.''
-- USC coach Lane Kiffin
That's my boy...
"Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy." Virgil
I don't care what any one has to say, Kiffin is good in my book.
Tommy, Rebel, and our newest rescue Harley!
I dont have any problems with him outside of some play calling. But I must admit that after seeing him the last 3 years, I think he is a good coach, but I dont think he will be in the Pete C, Urban, or Saban class. Yeah he will grow as a HC, but my gut tells me that he will be a good coach, just short of reaching great / elite status.
His play calling leaves me scratching my head most games. Like the first series in the second half.
Barkley checked to slants on the 2nd play of that series. Woods looked more open on the inside slant, but I admit, I can't really tell from where I sit in the stadium. It did look like Agholor almost got tackled on that play, too. Might have been a run before he audibled, might not have. I don't know.
Matt locked on one receiver and threw the first ball out of bounds, then made a poor throw on the second down throw, and then missed on the necessary 3rd down throw. I will not blame Kiffin for that set of plays, I will blame execution. A number of times tonight, there were Trojan receivers wide open as 2nd or 3d options and Matt tried to force passes to the least open receiver - typically Woods or Lee. Matt needs to start getting back to seeing all the options like the second half of last season.
Yes, that was definitely an early tackle that didn't get called. Woods was wide open though and probably would have been a better choice.
CLK should have come out running the ball instead of throwing it. That's what is so disturbing. Use the run to set up the pass and play-action passes.
First play of the game, McNeal off tackle for 5 yards.Second play of the game,McNeaL off tackle run down the left sidelines for about 50 yards.Third play of the game, Barkley throws a bubble screen for a loss of 2 yds.Four play of the game,Barkley throws a pick in the endzone.
Still good in your book? What do you think a good coach would have done in that situation?
This post was edited by altadenamike 22 months ago
Good God, this thread was started because our coach made a biting remark (clever one), and the girls come out bringing up game issues that could, and have, been made in a thousand other tiresome game threads.....Christ, give some of us some peace from your eternal bitching.
A good coach wouldn't have thrown a pick.
you could ignore the topic if you don't like the responses. Many of us are as passionate about football as you. We just don't accept everything CLK blindly. He needs to improve his play calling. And a quarterback coach needs to get in MB's head to get him to make better decisions.
It's a real shame when a female has to tell males to stop acting like *******
You have countless other threads to do your bitching and releasing your frustration. Stay on point and understand it isn't all about what you want to say in every damn thread.
Yeah, those two plays had WTF written all over them, but it's not all on Kiffin, though. Barkley was off, Lee had a big drop, Woody had drops, and both McNeal and Redd fumbled, so there's plenty of blame to go around. At the end of the day, SC won by double digits despite piss poor execution on offense.
As I stated, if you don't like, ignore the thread. You seem to be the one who comments on every thread....
This post was edited by Metrobank 22 months ago
I could say the same for you...particularly since the thread was started as an appreciation for a clever remark from our coach...not one mention in the OP about the game plan, the game itself, coaching, or anything to do with what happened on the field.
This post was edited by usctrojan1 22 months ago
Do we really have an idea on lanes play calling with barkley checking out of plays as often as he does? Does lane tell barkley to lock on to lee/woods? Is lane scarred to throw it to the middle of the field?
Exactly...this bitching and moaning is getting tiresome...
"It's what a brother would do for another brother"
Lets see, Barkley changed the play to a bubble when he saw the coverage..similar to the 2nd TD to Lee in the 4th...and if Matt throws the ball to the outside shoulder of Woods instead of under throwing slightly to the back corner and the defender making a really great play, then it is an easy TD.
The bubble screen as it was set up looked like a read option to me, not necessarily a play called by Kiffin. Woods turned to the outside expecting the ball to the back shoulder and then was not able to get to the ball where Matt threw it. I stand by my statement and I think people are laying too much on Kiffin and his play calling and not enough on execution by the players.
I respect your opinion Mike, but I think too much blame is being put on Kiffin when the key players or the o-line make mistakes.
Why? Because the plays that were used didn't work the way they were supposed to? Or Matt made the wrong decisions? Ifthey had worked, Lane would have been a genius...Let's stop blaming things on the coach when the players don't execute.
Only some males. I fully agree this shouldn't have evolved into a Kiffin bash thread and that isn't even warranted in any case for this game.
interesting comment you make metrobank. use the run to set up the pass is the traditional strategy. what i have enjoyed about kiffin is he does the opposite..he uses the pass to set up the run and he does it well.
that is what allowed us to dominate ND last year... an Oregon... we started passing and made the drop their safeties then bam we hit the with mcneal and a strong running attack. that is the identity of kiffins offense..pass sets up the run. what shut down our run game at stanford was that they stopped respecting our pass game.
back to topic: i love kiffins swag. he needs to back it up
While I like the strategy of using the pass to set up the run a you mention, this is not what USC did at Notre Dame last year. The first series was all about running right at them.
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