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Josh knows that. He did the Q&A with Matt after the LOI was faxed in where, Matt, states unequivocally, that FSU was his 2nd choice.
A point that he should really convey to his board members over and over until their eyes and ears bleed.
This post was edited by TrojanWarrior1 11 months ago
Thanks for coming over Josh. I totally believe Thomas didn't tell FSU coaches his intentions until a few weeks ago but he definitely told multiple people, other than FSU coaches, of his intentions 1+ month ago. Also sounds like he is less than pleased with Jimbo's response. Only time will tell, but I think we all agree he has very little interest in attending FSU, but that his binding agreement might make that mean very little.
USC let linebacker Glenn Stanley out of his letter of intent to sign with Florida State.
I thought you had written something to the effect of the NCAA having to take a closer look at what's going on in these cases. I read it to imply that there's probably some kind of impropriety that needed to be looked into. Maybe that wasn't the intent, but it left it out there for the worst kind of interpretations.
Edit: Found it. You're definitely painting a picture of wrongdoing by other schools.
"Imagine if Matthew Thomas is released from his LOI and it sets a precedent that kids can leave after Signing Day. Schools only have nine assistant coaches that are allowed to actively recruit on the road. These assistants are already recruiting across two classes (2014 and 2015). If recruits are now exiting their previous LOIs, you'll have coaches recruiting across three classes. If this were to happen, college staffs will have to continue to recruit 2013 from Signing Day until their class enrolls in the summer. They'll have to be sure that nobody is getting to their signees, even though they've already put their name on a "binding" contract.
For example, what happens if people get in the ear of a signed linebacker and say, "Look, FSU has commitments from Kain Daub and Delvin Purifoy. Are you sure you still want to go there?"
This is more than just a Florida State issue. This is something that the NCAA needs to step in to and something on which the Atlantic Coast Conference should be keeping a close eye."
Im willing to bet there are a lot of college coaches keeping a close eye on how this Matthew Thomas situation plays out.
If Thomas is
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It is difficult to understand why FSU would even be working to retain him at this point. Why would any school/team want someone in the locker room who is on record as not wanting to be there? If he came out of the meetings this week declaring that he has seen the light and is now a Nole, 110%, could anyone take him seriously?
I think the fact that this has become public is unfortunate for everyone directly involved.
While some programs, including USC, have waived their contractual rights in favor of the players, I don't think that has happened just or even primarily because the staff is not "dickish". I think that the schools must weigh whatever goodwill that earn with perspective recruits and current players against any expected future losses from the reduced sense of commitment.
To me, it seems like the message sent by strict enforcement of the LOI by the school is: Don't even think about signing with us unless you're absolutely certain because if anything changes we're going to do everything in our power to screw you. Maybe that's a good message to send; maybe not.
So, kids aren't allowed to sign a contract for reasons like this but FSU will demand they be held accountable for a life-long decision. Will Jimbo establish himself as the no-nonsense coach who won't allow 17-year old kids to change their mind if they learn they've made a huge mistake? Will kids respond with thoroughly thought-out decisions before signing their LOI? Or, will they avoid Jimbo because they need the bail out plan in the event they make a mistake?
Those are the decisions Fisher will make here...and the kids will talk about it.
I remember Charlie Weis making statements regarding commitment, etc...how'd that work out for him?
I hope ALL COACHES let these kids out of their LOI's...at least until the coaches fully meet the contracts they sign.
Well...that was an abrupt end to the thread...not even a by-your-leave. One would think mama would have taught Joshie better than that.
A lot of defensive posturing and resentment there...
"Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy." Virgil
Sorry guys, got caught up with a few phone calls.
I enjoyed the chat. I'll also keep you guys updated as this whole situation develops!
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Now that the chat is officially over, who is in favor of un-VIP'ing this thread and letting the FSU fans come here and attempt civil discourse, or letting Josh pin this thread on his board and allowing us the opportunity to watch the natives respond in their own insular world?
I would like to see it, just because I think some of those that are close to Josh would call him out on some of the answers he had given to the questions that were asked of him. I vote for it!!!
I know who isn't in favor of it.
Why? If he answered truthfully what does he have to lose?
Thus me asking him earlier what isn't he telling us. I still think that there is more to him wanting out. What the hell is Fisher over there pulling? I am not buying he all of a sudden had to take phone calls either.
Open it. It's our site, and since anyone can come here and start a thread trashing USC, or coaches and fans...this thread should be open.
We discussed briefly (or I did) in PM.......do you want this un-VIP'd?
I agree completely, we're setting a bad "precedent" if we keep a thread talking about FSU and one of their commits VIP when we allow them to come here and post freely...
I'm fine with it being open.
Also, I didn't choose to make the FSU board private. I'm an employee of 247Sports, Noles247 is not my site. If they asked me to cover the Gators tomorrow, Id be writing for Gatorbait. I just roll with what they want.
Thread will more than likely be opened tomorrow, according to Scott.
I am not in favor of it
Thomas story made it to yahoo front page on my ipad twice now as the big picture story..I would say this is getting attention
Thank you Josh. I just have a question how is Matthew Thomas situation different than Glenn Stanley who USC allowed to go to Florida State after he signed with USC?
I'm not sure there is really much to weigh. Is USC more nervous now that incoming recruits will now want out within a few months of committing and signing their LOI's simply because they let someone go elsewhere previously? Ludicrous. That was a defense merely to justify not releasing someone immediately now that it is public knowledge he wants to.
The claim that this could start some frenzy is an unsubstantiated copout. We don't know what will happen in the end, but say the situation ends up that FSU is not the MT's choice and he would rather go somewhere else than stay, If the staff then forces MT sit out a year or pay his own way out of some sort of penance for not remaining with his second choice in the end.......I can think of no better word to describe that than Dickish.
By the rules they would be within their rights to do so, but they would still be dicks if they end up doing it all the same. Only my opinion.
Stanley never played for FSU. The only difference is that it came during the time the sanctions were handed down.
I've talked to several BCS coaches about this topic and it's not something they'd want to have to deal with after Signing Day. You sign a certain amount of guys and you can't take everybody. Meanwhile, other prospects were passed over because that guy was signed and being counted toward the class.
FSU will make a decision on what to do with this situation, I don't know which way it will go.
Have you made that statement to your readers that you said you were going to earlier in this thread?
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