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The more I research Banker, the more I like him and his type is exactly what we need: blue collar, intense guy who had work work his ass off to get where he is...in some ways the antithesis of Lane. Simple schematic defense, in some ways the anthisesis of Monte.
I am worried though that we will be unable to pull him away from Corvallis.
I agree across the board. The other article linked said his wife likes san Diego...so that's good. Also if he wants to be a head coach he needs the exposure USC can bring.
Knowing Mike Riley, he is probably encouraging him to make the move for his own betterment
Ya, can't respect Riley enough. Seems to be one of the very few really stand up individuals in the game.
Riley would have made a heck of a HC for SC. Too bad the timing was never right.
I would not be surprised if the Banker talk is a way for him to get a raise in Corvallis. Pretty common tactic.
I really hope we can pull him in though. Someone suggested him maybe 5 or 6 weeks ago when it was becoming clear that changes needed to be made and I really didn't think it was realistic at the time. At least some buzz that he might be interested is a good thing.
This post was edited by USCoregonian 16 months ago
He was a GA here under John Robinson in the 90's.
Finally, someone who mentions the words "discipline" and "technique"
Oregon State Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers Coach Mark Banker micd up during a spring practice. http://www.osubeavers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/banker_mark...
He's been offered DC spots at plenty of other schools that would have offered him double what he makes now . He's stated that for him the importance of money isn't really that big of a factor. He's been with Riley for 13 years. His relationship with Riley and OSU are probably along the same lines as Bud Foster with Frank Beamer and Virginia Tech.
I like the way he coaches the DB's against the blocking receivers. Something we did not know what to do with last year. I'll admit I dont know much about him, but his D held Wisconsin's vaunted running attack to practically nothing and he appears to teach "discipline" and "technique", as oldtrojan said above, and those are things our D lacked the last few years. I'm on board with Banker.....
"there is the SEC, and then there is USC." - Marcus Allen, 11-26-11
I compiled some stats, comparing USC's 2012 defense to Oregon State's defense. I'll start with the overall team defense statistics for the entire season:
Stats are as follows: Oregon State / USC
Opponents points per game: 19.8 / 24.6
Opponent first downs: 227 / 276
-Rushing 93 / 115
-Passing 112 / 138
-Penalty 22 / 23
Opponent rushing yards per game: 130.5 / 156.4
-Rush TD 17 / 16
Opponent passing yards per game: 223.2 / 239.7
-Pass TD allowed 12 / 18
-INT 19 / 18
Opponents total yard per game: 353.7 / 396.1
Forced Fumbles 21 / 19
Fumble Recoveries 11 / 11
Sacks 26 / 43
Opponent time of possession: 27:48 / 30:21
***As you can see, Oregon State led in every statistic except for; rushing TDs allowed (by 1) and sacks. Both tied in fumble recoveries at 11.
Now, looking at the two against common opponents:
*Again, Oregon State / USC
**Disclaimer: points totals may be lower in some of these games (if the opponent had a defensive TD), the only one I subtracted points off the final score was changing Utah's points against USC from 28 to 21. Otherwise, some opponent defensive TDs may be accounted for.
Points: 20 / 38
First Downs: 19 / 27
Yards: 444 / 406
Points: 35 / 39
First Downs: 28 / 30
Yards: 545 / 588
Points: 7 / 21*
1st Downs: 19 / 15
Yards: 307 / 304
Points: 20 / 14
First Downs: 15 / 14
Yards: 293 / 299
Points: 26 / 17
First Downs: 19 / 15
Yards: 303 / 250
Points: 27 / 21
First Downs: 22 / 22
Yards: 417 / 417
Points: 14 / 9
First Downs: 17 / 21
Yards: 322 / 250
Points: 48 / 62
First Downs: 25 / 37
Yards: 570 / 730
Tallying these numbers up and awarding 1 point for each stat in which the team gave up fewer points, first downs or yards, we have Oregon State 11, USC 11
Cumulative statistics against common opponents were:
Points allowed: 197 (24.6/game)
First downs allowed: 164 (20.5/game)
Yards given up: 400.1/game
Points allowed: 221 (27.6/game)
First downs allowed: 181 (22.6/game)
Yards given up: 405.5
No he was Asst HC in '96
Freedom through Vigilance
Yeah, but look at the players he had to work with compared to the 'star' ratings that USC has. Given that, I'd see he did pretty damn well with what he had.
You do also have to look at when a team played a comparable team...take Stanford. SC played them early in the season while their offensive was just ramping up. OSU got them nearing their peak...
Whoa! Timestamp 1:19... Manti Te'o once played for the Beavs?
I wasn't trying to say anything bad about Banker at all, just relaying the stats I compiled while bored in class. Since you bring up star ratings, that was actually going to be my next post, so I'll type it here.
Here are the Oregon State and USC defensive players whom had at least 10 tackles in 2012, along with their 24/7 database composite ranking:
UR = Unranked on 24/7
Michael Doctor UR
Rashaad Reynolds UR
Ryan Murphy 0.8333
Tyrequek Zimmerman 0.8619
D.J. Alexander UR
Feti Unga UR
Dylan Wynn 0.8883
Jordan Poyer 2* - no composite
Scott Crichton 0.8556
Anthony Watkins UR
Sean Martin UR
Andrew Seumalo UR
Rudolf Fifita 0.7444
Rueben Robinson UR
Castro Masanial UR
Rusty Fernando 0.8263
T.J. McDonald 0.9818
Hayes Pullard 0.9113
Dion Bailey 0.9075
Lamar Dawson 0.9366
Morgan Breslin 0.8711
Leonard Williams 0.9750
Nickell Robey 0.9326
Anthony Sarao 0.9225
Jawanza Starling 0.9383
Wes Horton 0.8976
Torin Harris UR - at least not on 24/7
Josh Shaw 0.9862
George Uko 0.9854
Tony Burnett UR
Drew McAllister UR - at least not on 24/7
Anthony Brown 0.8756
Antwaun Woods 0.9282
J.R. Tavai 0.8528
Greg Townsend Jr. 0.9788
Not a knock on Banker at all, but I'm not confident that his - or anyone else's - superior numbers would hold up if we return to a no tackling policy next year during practice.
I'm hopefully going to be talking to my Beaver buddy soon(tonight) who is close to the program and get his thoughts on the possible Banker hiring.
On the surface I would say that he will come for a year or two, get the defense back to being respectable, and then will move on to a HC gig somewhere. What better place than USC to build your resume?
I knew it the moment I typed it.
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