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Just like 2011...Float U wins something by default.
They're getting good at it though.
Their DLine recruits for the year are 6'9", 6'8", 6'7", 6'7", 6'7", and 6'5"
Huge, but I was asking about the O-Line as that is where most think Arik should play and he doesn't seem to fit the mold of their offense in that spot
"Dude looks like a friggin rock star" - TrojanWarrior1 on Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
He wants to play defense but we'll see if they can sway him. He would kill kids at OT in any offense. Have you seen his offensive tape? Also, I think they have smaller OLinemen out of failures in recruiting and not because they want them
It is probably fair to say they are a little lighter than many, but certainly not out of the ordinary small.
Average OL size for Oregon: 6-4, 292lbs.
I used the roster to determine the size. The ducks are very young on the OL, with 6 redshirt freshmen who were all around 275-280. We shall see if they have bulked up anymore through the year. The Oregon home site typically updates height and weight over the summer, going into fall camp.
Average OL size for USC: 6-4, 298lbs.
It's not as if they've developed O-linemen....till they do that, what "Big Uglie" with NFL aspirations will pick oregon?
Doesn't help that USC is known for cranking out linemen like crazy, Matt Kalil will go even higher than Tyron did last season. Not to mention that USC has given the NFL two of the greatest o-linemen of all time, Anthony Munoz and Bruce Matthews.
USC has played very well vs big D-linemen historically.
"Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy." Virgil
Thanks duckhole. Appears I was incorrect :)
Preaching to the choir. Past accomplishments or our players will always be better than the ducks and pretty much everyone else for that matter. I am interested to see how Oregon's OLine class from last year develops. If they can figure out a way to get top OLinemen to their program and get chip to stay around it's going to be a year in and year out battle between USC and Oregon
Not sure about all this (but I'm sure the quackers will put in their worthless on this).... but isn't their offense so simple (but using great athletes) that it doesn't prepare them for the complexities of the NFL game?
I don't want to hear from quacks, I have most of them on ignore anyway.
I'm not sure if their offense is so simple. I really don't know it well enough. The offense is predicated upon getting mismatches using their speed and misdirection. For athletes, RBs and WRs, I think they are probably developed just fine in this system. They haven't had many good WRs put in the league lately but I can't really think of any top WRs committing there until last year so the lack of NFL kids is understandable. They should be really dangerous if they can get a good QB who can distribute the ball to all their new playmakers which would make them a more balanced and harder offense to stop. As for linemen, I think it's kind of the chicken or the egg thing with regards to putting top OLinemen in the league. You need to have top recruits come through to put top linemen in the league and you need to have top linemen in the league to get the recruits. Their line scheme is built around zone blocking principles which are used by some NFL teams but are in no way the norm. I'm sure if they had Kalil he would be a high pick because he's such a stud but I'm not sure he'd be the top OT taken just because NFL scouts wouldn't have seen him perform in a pro-style offense. If they get Armstead to play on their OLine he is going to create some serious running lanes. Hope he stays on defense. Sorry for the long post, I tried my best to answer it.
No, no I appreciate your answer. As to the "simple offense" comment, I've read that in several places (I'm not smart enough to come up with this on my own), and recently, on ESPN in evaluating Thomas' decision to enter the NFL. Exact words used..."very simple offense", and in no way stating that the skill players could not be successful in the NFL...just QBs and offensive linemen.
Who really knows? We'll find out.
Not really sure why Thomas left early but he needed to make the "easy" throws cuz i don't think he had the arm or mechanics for the bigger throws. If bennet or Mariota develop like most seem to think then you will have a more vertical passing game with more complex throws. Dixon did back in '07. Chips develops the offense around what his best players can do in the system.
If a team can't seem to stop a particular play he will run it over and over again.
Its not a "gimmick" offense like some seem to think but it is designed to get mismatches and counter off what the defense is giving (or overplaying).
I know what you are saying with Thomas, he had ALOT of bubble screens but part of that was his mechanics weren't the best and he sailed throws.
As far as Olinemen, we have some in the league but obviously no where near USC or will ever have. We just don't have that many in the state and have to get Cali kids most of the time which grew up on USC football.
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I loved Dennis Dixson, great kid and one heck of a college QB. Most of us on the old board were truly sad when he went down...we know we backed into the Rose Bowl because of it (and the PAC Champion that year)...Oregon had an excellent chance of winning the National Championship that year.
I definitely agree with you about the last couple sentences you wrote. Oregon was my favorite to win the Title that year--- before Dennis went down, of course. Jonathan Stewart was also a monster. Remember him?
Oh yeah, great great team. I actually had tears in my eyes when Dennis went down at Arizona..I remember the moment well. He should have won the Heisman, and they should have won the National Championship.
That was sickening watching him lie there agonizing while all the Arizona fans cheered it. He was incredible at fooling the cameramen and defenses for that matter
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Yeah that was a fun team to watch..Michigan game was crazy. I do think that may have been our most complete team and would have had a great shot at the title.
I think alot of fans are more hopeful for that type of offense within the next couple of years due to the development of a better passing QB than Thomas. Its hard to complain of his winning percentage BUT he did miss open guys and our passing game was limited due to him and our WR commits not panning out (diante jackson, tyrece gaines). You MUST block to get the rock as Chip says so alot of the WR have to redshirt to get bigger/stronger in order to learn that.
I know you guys may not have "depth" over the next few years but good God you guys have ridiculous talent...especailly Barkley/Woods/Lee combo
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