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This guy calls out the ncaa reguarding the yucks.
If it looks like a Duck, and quacks like a Duck ... it's probably a Duck. Gregg Doyel says Oregon paying Will Lyles $25,000 to steer top Texas recruits to Eugene sure looks like cheating. So why is the NCAA going to let Oregon off easy?
This post was edited by trojanNorCal 2 years ago
The guy nailed it. Read the comments...and guess which ones are Duck fans without reading their handles.
"And if you ask me, the USC sanctions should be the starting point for Oregon. The minimum. While it's true that an actual player (and family members) received benefits in the USC case -- and received them at a value well beyond $25,000 -- there's a distinction here. It's a distinction Oregon fans will ignore because it's convenient, but it's a distinction that should appall the NCAA:
At USC, the checks were written by outsiders: agents, runners, marketing reps.
At Oregon, the check was written by the Oregon football team.
See that distinction? It's grotesque. This wasn't some mysterious off-campus figure exerting influence. This was Chip Kelly making sure $25,000 went to the guy in Houston who says he helped steer recruits to Oregon. And Lyles had a hands-on role, too: He says he advised eventual Oregon All-American tailback LaMichael James to transfer to Arkansas for his final semester of high school to avoid Texas' standardized test required for graduation. Then he showed Seastrunk how to use his grandmother to sign his scholarship papers, because Seastrunk's mother wasn't sold on Oregon.
See how bad this looks?"
He works for CBS, so of course he won't call out the NCAA on Auburn (or Ohio State or Miami).
I hate Oregon too, but I'd even be more mad if the NCAA punished only them in addition to us. Pac-12 hate!
Doyel writing a reasonable article may mean the end of the world is near. He has been one of the biggest hacks ragging on USC and Pete Carroll up to now. He's a Florida guy.
Help A Better LA bring peace to the South LA community. Are you in?
It is 2012 maybe the end is near....You never know
wow, I got downvoted for posting THIS article?? Is there a duck troll posing as an SC fan somewhere on the fighton board?
Evened you out with a plus. I know there's a lurker who downvotes people at random...
PREP NOT HYPE
Fight On and You'll Never Walk Alone
Penguins are awesome creatures +1
Fixed. Counter-up-vote for you, sir!
Up vote for you! There are quack trolls on this board, they're the only ones that would down vote you.
"Here are provided seats of meditative joy, where shall rise again the destined reign of Troy." Virgil
Doyle is an equal opportunity flamethrower. He usually makes fairly salient points, and didn't even spare Urban Meyer from his customary scathing diatribe when he was the coach at Florida.
Meyer shows true core values by reinstating Rainey
Florida coach Urban Meyer, who let talented touchdown-maker Chris Rainey return to practice this week -- one month after Rainey threatened his girlfriend's life -- talks about players like family. They're his children. His sons. In real life, of course, Urban Meyer has a son of his own, and he has two daughters. And so, for a change, I want him to think about this:
Don't think of Chris Rainey as his son.
Think of Chris Rainey's girlfriend as his daughter.
Rainey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor stalking after sending the following text message to his girlfriend: "Time to Die B-tch."
If Chris Rainey sent a threatening text message to one of Urban Meyer's daughters, would he still be on the team?
Is Chris Rainey back at practice this week if he'd sent that to Meyer's daughter?
We'll never know, and good for that. I don't wish ill will on Meyer or his family, but I do wish the single most visible man at Florida -- my alma mater, if you didn't know -- would stop embarrassing UF grads like me who wonder why he's considered such a strong leader when in reality he's weak. Soft. Pathetic.
Meyer cares only about winning games, and if he'd stand there and tell the world, "I care only about winning games," then I could live with it. I'd still be embarrassed that a dangerous cretin like Chris Rainey was allowed to represent my school so soon after telling a woman that it was time to die, b-tch -- but I could live with Meyer being true to who Meyer is, which is a cutthroat coach concerned not with his players or his university, but with his career winning percentage and the $24 million contract that comes with it.
Instead of being honest, though, Meyer resorts to empty talk about "core values" and meaningless blather that Rainey continues to "pay a price" and must "follow guidelines," but in the meantime Meyer is "disappointed" that one of the fastest players in his program told a b-tch that it was time to die.
What if that b-tch was your daughter, Urban? What then?
Don't tell me this is an irrelevant hypothetical, because it's not. Urban Meyer himself admitted to engaging in such parental role play a few months ago when he confronted an Orlando Sentinel reporter who had quoted receiver Deonte Thompson about the differences between Tim Tebow and John Brantley. Meyer told the Sentinel's Jeremy Fowler, "If that was my son, we'd be going at it right now."
If that was my son ...
Meyer then told Fowler, who was guilty of quoting the 21-year-old Thompson accurately, "You're a bad guy, man. You're a bad guy."
Sickening. Meyer talks about the Florida football family, but the only father he reminds me of is the one who can't control his kids. Rainey was the 25th Florida player arrested under Meyer's watch, or maybe he was the 27th, or maybe he was the 30th.
All three figures have been reported because the truth is, so many Gators have been arrested that it's hard to keep up. Let's give Meyer the benefit of the doubt and go with 25 -- which is 24 more than have been arrested in four years under coach Randy Shannon at Miami.
See, this stuff can be stopped. It's not impossible, and it would require tough love -- kicking players off the team after being charged with a crime, no questions asked, after the 10th or 15th or 20th arrest. After Rainey's arrest on Sept. 14, Meyer said he was "real upset" and then vowed, "enough's enough."
Then the Gators lost two consecutive games. Florida gained 281 yards against Alabama on Oct. 2, and its offense was even worse in the loss to LSU, totaling just 243.
That was Saturday.
Chris Rainey was back with the team Sunday.
Transparent. And dishonest. Off the field, Meyer considers the "core values" of his program to be three no-nos -- no stealing, no drugs, no weapons -- and two affirmatives. Honesty is one. Respect for women is the other.
On the field, Meyer has other core values. I'm not playing with words, either. This is what Meyer said Monday, bemoaning his team's offensive struggles:
"The lack of explosive plays," he said, which "were something we set a trademark for around here. We're void of those right now. We're not having those home-run shots. [That] and, obviously, taking care of the football ... those are the core values of our program on how to win a game."
What we have here is a collision of core values. Last month Chris Rainey told a woman it was "time to die" -- but Rainey also has four career runs of at least 60 yards, and three others of 33 yards or longer.
Respect for women vs. explosive plays.
You see which core value matters more at Florida.
Urban Meyer is a bad guy, man. He's a bad guy.
Yeap, people have short memories...
He wrote this about USC...
He wrote this about Lane Kiffin
Here's another one...
Oregon will get off lightly and that's a fact.
Good one, lol. Unless your name is Bruce Feldman or Ted Miller....too many of these outsiders are nothing more than TMZ level sports reporters.
After all the stinking rubbish going on all over the CFB landscape, these guys just want to jump on the next hater bandwagon.
Love you Scott....you're a class act.
This post was edited by usctrojan1 2 years ago
I learned to ignore up and down votes when I got down voted for posting a smiley face. lol
Haha, well, it's either a yuck troll or a very negative person.
We must find this downvoting perp, and bring the quack to justice!!!!! ;)
(hopefully the ncaa does it for us)
If whoregon gets hammered, the quack trolls can downvote me all they want, ill take the red -1 with delight.
As for this article, it is good. Hopefully big media are reading it also, and let the nzaa know. And if the yucks get a wrist slap, hopefully this article is one of many tools that can bring down the ncaa, if they are unjust (which is likely)
Someone just downvoted you, and I upvoted in return! Man, those people are pathetic beggars for attention...like their gawdy costumes, lol.
Kelly: I am going to become the head coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. [8:15 pm]
Duck fans: All shit were *****. We suck again.
NCAA to Kelly: Your good don't worry, your buddy knight just made it rain in our headquarters in Indy. Keep on quacking. [8:30 pm]
Kelly: I never really even considered leaving Oregon. We have unfinished business. [8:31 pm]
Duck fans: Haha you guys thought he would leave Oregon for the NFL. You are clueless. Quack for life.
Your like my guardian angel of the message board. Slaying quack troll downvotes one by one!!
All this makes me wonder how much DAT might have been offered.
Now there is a thought? Does seem kind of strange how this all went down any how water under the bridge but every duck will have it's day.
I still remember coach Kiff shaking his head when questioned about DAT. He was absolutly perplexed as to why dat changed his commiment to oregon.
I bet Kiff has a better idea now.
And I bet the DAT situation went down WAY shadier than the Willy Lyles stuff. Just waitin for Dat to crack and spill the beans.
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