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Can A 1 Loss USC Team Get Into BCS Title Game If....

  • the only loss is to Oregon during the season? If Oregon were to beat us in a close game, but we then avenge the loss in the Pac 12 championship game, we would still be a 1 loss team with the only loss being to a certain Top 5-10 program that played for a conference championship. I wonder how our record would stack up against other 1 loss teams to see who would get into the title game. Is sure seems like we have to go undefeated to with no margin for error despite the fact we have to play a top team twice.

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    scgabe

  • Does it matter? USC will beat Oregon twice.

    This post was edited by SPrice on 8/1/2012 at 10:00 PM

    SPrice

  • IMO, The answer is no.. The BCS will see it another way..

    trinity

  • trinity said...

    IMO, The answer is no.. The BCS will see it another way..

    Probably not, but never say never.

    Safest to run the table and hopefully lead the polls wire-to-wire.

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  • Thank you!! WE will Shoot um Quacks down!! FIGHT ON!!

    SylmarTrojan818

  • SylmarTrojan818 said...

    Thank you!! WE will Shoot um Quacks down!! FIGHT ON!!

    I watched the Oregon game again, and I don't think the game will be as easy as you think. We played a nearly flawless game for 3 quarters and they helped with 2 turnovers. By the 4th, our guys were gassed.

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  • scgabe said...

    I watched the Oregon game again, and I don't think the game will be as easy as you think. We played a nearly flawless game for 3 quarters and they helped with 2 turnovers. By the 4th, our guys were gassed.

    A lot has changed since then. They've lost their starting qb and rb while our offense and defense should be much better

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  • SdotK said...

    A lot has changed since then. They've lost their starting qb and rb while our offense and defense should be much better

    No doubt. I just caution the game will not be as easy as people think it will be. Their a system oriented attack that keeps plugging people in and keeps winning games tiring defenses out. It's always tough to beat a good opponent twice.

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  • scgabe said...

    I watched the Oregon game again, and I don't think the game will be as easy as you think. We played a nearly flawless game for 3 quarters and they helped with 2 turnovers. By the 4th, our guys were gassed.

    To say USC played flawlessly to start the game is as stretch. We started with a 3 and out, then fumbled and then another 3 and out.

    They helped with 2 turnovers and USC helped with 3 turnovers and giving up a KOR.

    TrojanMindSC

  • SPrice said...

    USC will beat Oregon twice.

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  • trinity said...

    IMO, The answer is no.. The BCS will see it another way..

    Also this ^^

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  • If we lose to Oregon on Nov 3rd, then beat them in the PAC-12CG, I say we most likely get in, if it is a battle of other 1 loss teams.

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  • MJRuffalo said...

    If we lose to Oregon on Nov 3rd, then beat them in the PAC-12CG, I say we most likely get in, if it is a battle of other 1 loss teams.

    I agree with the same caveat of a battle against a 1 loss team.

    But we HAVE to win the championship game.

    Cry Havoc; and let slip the dogs of war!

    phear_SC

  • USC will beat Oregon up. No losses. Non issue.

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  • scgabe said...

    I watched the Oregon game again, and I don't think the game will be as easy as you think. We played a nearly flawless game for 3 quarters and they helped with 2 turnovers. By the 4th, our guys were gassed.

    The game was made close due to several inexplicably bad calls that went against USC.We should have beat them by double digits easily.We should be able to do whatever we want to them again this year.IMO they don't have the horses to beat us at home.

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  • This time the regular season game is at the Coli. Need to win (which we will) to get the title game back home.

    Lots of challenges this year...one at a time.

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  • Barkley threw a pick in crunch time that extended a game that should have been won by double digits. Wake me up when Oregon has a secondary...

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  • scgabe said...

    the only loss is to Oregon during the season? If Oregon were to beat us in a close game, but we then avenge the loss in the Pac 12 championship game, we would still be a 1 loss team with the only loss being to a certain Top 5-10 program that played for a conference championship. I wonder how our record would stack up against other 1 loss teams to see who would get into the title game. Is sure seems like we have to go undefeated to with no margin for error despite the fact we have to play a top team twice.

    might be tough if oklahoma goes undefeated

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  • scgabe said...

    I watched the Oregon game again, and I don't think the game will be as easy as you think. We played a nearly flawless game for 3 quarters and they helped with 2 turnovers. By the 4th, our guys were gassed.

    Don't forget that Marc Tyler helped out by fumbling at the end of the game. Reasonably speaking, we should have scored a TD and that last Oregon drive with a missed FG never happens. We win by 10.

    JCakus

  • scgabe said...

    the only loss is to Oregon during the season? If Oregon were to beat us in a close game, but we then avenge the loss in the Pac 12 championship game, we would still be a 1 loss team with the only loss being to a certain Top 5-10 program that played for a conference championship. I wonder how our record would stack up against other 1 loss teams to see who would get into the title game. Is sure seems like we have to go undefeated to with no margin for error despite the fact we have to play a top team twice.

    If we lose at home to a top-5 team (and we are sitting at #1 or 2), that should drop us into the 4-7 range (being punished for a home loss). If Oregon is sitting undefeated by the time we play them again in the Pac-12 CG, they should be ranked 2-3, and if we are 11-1, we should be ranked 3-5. A road win for us should be enough to vault us to that 2-3 range (maybe the 2-spot if it is a convincing win). But, with the Pac-12 CG a Friday night game, there may be less people that watch that game and only look at the box score and that will not help us.

    Too much depends on what the rest of the teams in the country do. A 1-loss SC team probably won't be able to jump over any two of the following 13-0 teams: LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma, Michigan, W. Virgina. The only way we remove all doubt is to go 13-0. We will have two wins over Oregon (who should be a top-8 ranked team), a win over a top-15 Utah team, a top-20 Stanford team, and a top-25 Washington & ND team.

    JCakus

  • elum07 said...

    Barkley threw a pick in crunch time that extended a game that should have been won by double digits. Wake me up when Oregon has a secondary...

    +1, They try and make excuses by saying they played with 2 freshmans as corners yet they fail to realize that ML was a true freshman and Robert Woods was a true sophmore.

    I also find it hilarious that they somehow think they have an advantage at corner this year because their corners now have a year of experience under their belts. Last time i checked, Lee and Woods also got another year under their belts too. Those quackers are in for a suprise this year though. I think they'll find it tough to cover Woods, Lee, possibly Farmer or Agholor, Grimble and Telfer. All while trying to stop Silas and Mcneal. They won't know how to stop USC when it's all said and done.

    Edit- And Woods played injured last year. If he's healthy come November 3rd, I think Oregon gets curb stomped.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by SPrice on 8/2/2012 at 9:33 AM

    SPrice

  • I think the one loss as most agree, would have to be to Oregon (we won't play any other teams ranked high enough to bounce back), and then of course, beat them at Autzen--tall order.

    Also, the top four of 5 teams in the country, would also need to have 1 loss for USC to catapult over any others ranked 2-5 at season's end.

    Trojans need to give the middle finger to the BCS, so it doesn't happen in vice-versa fashion.

    Run the table.

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  • Keep in mind, it also helps when your one loss comesd early in the season. The voters tend to write it off as "the team has found themselves" if your wins at the end of the season are solid and dominant. It's the classic "they can compete with anyone NOW" argument.
    Just a thought.

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  • nedlakire said...

    Keep in mind, it also helps when your one loss comesd early in the season. The voters tend to write it off as "the team has found themselves" if your wins at the end of the season are solid and dominant. It's the classic "they can compete with anyone NOW" argument. Just a thought.

    Too bad that logic didn't help us out in 2008, losing on Sept 25 at Oregon State only by 6 points and then following that up with 9 ass whippings.
    I made the same assumption on a different post about which game we could afford to lose this season (and my though was the Stanford game, because it would be early, on the road and against a likely-top-15-ranked team).
    But, the second you lose, you take your fate out of your hands and put it in someone else's....
    The only way to guarantee a spot in Miami is to go 13-0. Doesn't matter if it is 13 one-point wins, we just need to be 13-0.

    JCakus

  • SOS is the problem. You have to run the table, and Oregon's two losses can only be to SC. That said if it's a split with SC winning the P12 championship I believe there will be a huge ground swell of support for SC. Especially if (rather, when) the opponent comes from the SEC. Doesn't matter where your allegiance lies, everyone, everywhere wants to see SC v Bama or SC v LSU.

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